Help needed from foreign film experts

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  1. Scott Page

    Scott Page Stunt Coordinator

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    I'm interested in the following foreign films, however, I know very little about them expect they are highly recommended. My problem is that my wife is highly sensitive to female nudity. She gets very upset if I'm watching and breasts show up. A butt shot or two is ok, but any female frontal nudity will get me in hot water. Since these are either unrated or "R" rated they could be problems. So can you help me out by letting me know which of these films should be avoided by me? Yes, I know us Americans are prudes. Yes, I know Utah Americans are the worst prudes. So there is no need to go into the merits of nudity vs violence, etc.

    Thanks very much for your help.

    Seven Samurai1954

    Discreet Charm Of The Bourgeoisie, The1972

    Umbrellas of Cherbourg, The1964

    Blue Angel1930

    Bicycle Thief, The1948

    Strike1925

    Cinema Paradiso1988

    400 Blows, The1959

    8 1/21963

    Children of Paradise1945

    Playtime1967

    Gertrud1964

    Rashomon1950

    Aguirre, The Wrath Of God1972

    Earth1930

    Vampyr1932

    Battleship Potemkin, The1925

    Red Desert1964

    Gospel According to Saint Matthew, The1964

    Rocco & His Brothers1960

    Decalogue, The1988

    Andrei Rublev1969

    Lola Montes1955

    Last Year at Marienbad1960

    Solaris (Solyaris)1972

    Grand Illusion1938

    Seventh Seal, The1957

    M1931

    Passion of Joan of Arc, The1928

    Ivan the Terrible, Parts I and II1945

    Wild Strawberries1957

    Red and the White, The [Csillagosok, katonák]1968

    Kingdom, The (Riget)1999

    Ikiru1952

    Throne of Blood (The)1957

    Vanishing, The1988

    Breathless (À bout de souffle)1960

    Diabolique1955

    Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, The1994

    Farewell My Concubine: Director's Cut1993

    Amarcord1974

    Swept Away1975

    Ran1985

    Two English Girls (Les Deux anglaises et le continent)1971

    All About My Mother (Todo sobre mi madre)1999

    Belle de jour1967

    Metropolis1926

    Smiles Of A Summer Night1955

    Pierrot le Fou1965

    Tin Drum, The1979

    Run Lola Run1998
     
  2. Ike

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  3. Rain

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    I'm not sure about all of them. Let's see...

    These have no nudity for sure:

    Umbrellas of Cherbourg, The 1964

    Bicycle Thief, The 1948

    Grand Illusion 1938

    Seventh Seal, The 1957

    M 1931

    Metropolis

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    Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, The 1994:

    Well, there is a part where you see the outline of a transexual's breast through a wet blouse. There is also a scene where a woman projects ping pong balls out of her pussy, though you don't actually see her naked.

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    Belle du Jour & The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeiosie:

    I don't think they have total nudity, but there are some very sexual situations and innuendos. Better safe than sorry.

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    I don't recall any nudity in either Seven Samurai or The Gospel According to St. Matthew, but I'm not 100% sure.
     
  4. Ike

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    Discreet is PG, Rain, and it could be showed, as far as I remember, completely unedited on TV.

    Let me go through the one's I know that I've seen that I'm sure don't:

    Seven Samurai 1954

    Discreet Charm Of The Bourgeoisie, The 1972

    400 Blows, The 1959

    8 1/2 1963

    Decalogue, The 1988

    Andrei Rublev 1969 (though I can't remember if it shows anything, there is a section with nudists. As far as I remember, it was not graphic at all, and never showed anything.)

    Seventh Seal, The 1957

    All About My Mother (Todo sobre mi madre) 1999

    Run Lola Run 1998

    These, I'm almost positive (except with Andrei) have 0 nudity.
     
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  6. Greg_R

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    Seven Samurai doesn't have nudity. However, there are numerous battles (but little blood). If you've seen The Magnificent Seven it's the same (in terms of amount & type of violence). You probably already know that TM7's plot is a copy of Seven Samurai...
     
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    Sorry, I missed one.

    Children of Paradise has no nudity.
     
  8. JohnJB

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    I'm the opposite to your wife I get upset if... you get the picture.

    Any way these are good by my reasoning:

    Cinema Paradiso 1988 (I'm pretty sure there is a montage of clips censored from films which may include boobies)

    Rocco & His Brothers 1960 (oh 1960 I'm thinking of a completely different film)

    Kingdom, The (Riget) 1999 (Lars can be pretty racy, I'd be very careful)

    Tin Drum, The 1979 (oh yeah)
     
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    Scott Page:
    ...here's one movie (by the director of Cinema Paradiso) that you and your wife definitely should not watch:
    http://www.dvd.it/index.cgi?sid=1689...ett&arti=18791
    ...I noticed your list of titles includes:
    * Fritz Lang's M (a film about a sicko pervert who goes around murdering little girls - "Ich kann doch nichts dafür!")
    * Luis Buñuel's Belle de jour (a film about a lovely young woman who is - to put it as delicately as possible - "...a wife by night and a prostitute by day...")
    ...just thought I'd warn you...
    I'll now go sit in a corner and repent for being a callous slob.
    . . .
     
  10. Bill McA

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    Seven Samurai 1954 none

    Discreet Charm Of The Bourgeoisie, The 1972 none

    Umbrellas of Cherbourg, The 1964 none

    Blue Angel 1930 don't think so

    Bicycle Thief, The 1948 none

    Strike 1925 never seen it but I doubt it contains any nudity

    Cinema Paradiso 1988 don't remember any

    400 Blows, The 1959 none

    8 1/2 1963 none

    Children of Paradise 1945 none

    Playtime 1967 none

    Gertrud 1964 never seen it

    Rashomon 1950 it's about a rape, but I don't recall any nudity

    Aguirre, The Wrath Of God 1972 I think there was, not sure

    Earth 1930 never seen it - I doubt it

    Vampyr 1932 none

    Battleship Potemkin, The 1925 none

    Red Desert 1964 never seen it

    Gospel According to Saint Matthew, The 1964 I don't recall any

    Rocco & His Brothers 1960 never seen it

    Decalogue, The 1988 I think there was, not sure

    Andrei Rublev 1969 never seen it, but I believe there is some

    Lola Montes 1955 never seen it

    Last Year at Marienbad 1960 none

    Solaris (Solyaris) 1972 never seen it

    Grand Illusion 1938 I doubt it

    Seventh Seal, The 1957 don't recall any

    M 1931 none

    Passion of Joan of Arc, The 1928 none

    Ivan the Terrible, Parts I and II 1945 never seen them

    Wild Strawberries 1957 don't recall any

    Red and the White, The [Csillagosok, katonák] 1968 never seen it

    Kingdom, The (Riget) 1999 none

    Ikiru 1952 none

    Throne of Blood (The) 1957 none

    Vanishing, The 1988 none

    Breathless (À bout de souffle) 1960 don't recall any

    Diabolique 1955 none

    Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, The 1994 none

    Farewell My Concubine: Director's Cut 1993 don't recall any

    Amarcord 1974 extra-large sized

    Swept Away 1975 pretty sure that there was some

    Ran 1985 none

    Two English Girls (Les Deux anglaises et le continent) 1971 don't recall any

    All About My Mother (Todo sobre mi madre) 1999 don't remember any

    Belle de jour 1967 yes, if I remember correctly

    Metropolis 1926 do pasties count?

    Smiles Of A Summer Night 1955 don't recall any

    Pierrot le Fou 1965 never seen it

    Tin Drum, The 1979 lots & lots

    Run Lola Run 1998 no
     
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    I'm not sure if I agree with Rain about Metropolis. It's been a while since I've seen it (I can't stomach my madacy dvd [​IMG]), but the female robot might offend your wife.
    All I can say is that this really makes me appreciate my wife even more. She enjoys films with female nudity almost as much as I do. [​IMG]
     
  12. Darren H

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    Just to fill in some holes Bill left . . .
     
  13. Pascal A

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    Filling in the remaining blanks between Bill and Darren's posts:
    Strike 1925 - none
    Gertrud 1964 - topic of adultery, no nudity
    Rocco & His Brothers - long rape scene with witnesses, off camera (no actual nudity presented, camera pans to the reactions of witnesses intead)
    Lola Montes - many affairs, no nudity
    Oh, missed The Red and the White - none, just long, almost hallucinatory battle sequences
     
  14. Scott Page

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    You guys are great! Thanks so much for your effort.
    George: female robots should be just fine.
    Rain: bras should be ok unless its like a Victoria Secret commercial. I quickly find something else in the room to study when those come on the tube and the wife is near [​IMG].
    Ike: hahahaha, your comments don't offend, but I have to laugh. Your attitude would get me divorced or castrated, possibly both. My wife is quite beautiful and has a great body; if I want to ever see or touch it again, I'll respect her sensitvity on this. So Ike, if you were wearing my shoes which would you choose: the REAL thing or the REEL thing? [​IMG].
    I have some conflicting info on All About My Mother 1999. The above posts say no nudity, but somewhere I read it had heavy sex and nudity. Can anyone comment more fully on this one?
    So, based on input the movies to avoid are:
    Amarcord1974
    Andrei Rublev1969
    Belle de jour1967
    Swept Away1975
    Tin Drum, The1979
    Aguirre, The Wrath Of God1972
    Cinema Paradiso1988 Might be Ok, but may have a film clip montage showing some boobs. Can anyone tell me if these flash by very quickly and are relatively few in number? She likely would mind if its a very fast flash and not to graphic. I've heard this movie is so great I'd like to get it if the montage is brief and non-graphic.
    The following movies likely don't have any but forum members were not quite sure; anybody know for sure?
    Blue Angel1930
    Earth1930
    Farewell My Concubine: Director's Cut1993
    Smiles Of A Summer Night1955
    Strike1925
    Two English Girls (Les Deux anglaises et le continent)1971
    These movies have not be seen by those responding so far:
    Ivan the Terrible, Parts I and II1945
    Red Desert1964
    Thanks again. If any of you have some suggestions for 3 1/2 to 4 star foreign films that are nudity free that I have not mentioned, please let me know. My list of movies was gathered mainly from Movie Line's list of the top 100 foreign films. Suggestions for more contemporary films would be appreciated.
     
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    I doubt your wife would have any problem at all with "Diabolique", but when the light hits Véra Clouzot's nightgown in just the right way, .... uh

    I'm sorry, what was I talking about again. :b

    Regards,
     
  17. Scott Page

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    Darren,

    Thanks for the reply. If it's really only 1 scene and 5 seconds of non-graphic boobs then it's likely going to be OK if I can skip past it. If it is that great of a film and not to be missed? I do have Braveheart, Terminator, Dark City, 5th Element, The Contender, Blade Runner, and a few others with brief nudity that that can be quickly by-passed if needed (like the strip scene in Dark City). I've got to be careful about these types of films though, cause if I bring in too many she may say out with them all (Don't want to give up my sci-fi favorites). I've indexed a few films (Terminator, Dark City, Blade Runner) so that I know just when to hit pause, then change the time index ahead to skip the offending stuff.

    So the bottom line is if it is a fantastic film and only has a single brief scene, it may be ok. But I wish to really limit the number of these to avoid getting them all thrown out.
     
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    Blue Angel 1930 - no sex or nudity, some bare stockings [​IMG]
    Earth 1930 – no sex or nudity
    Farewell My Concubine: Director's Cut 1993 – I don't remember any specific scene of nudity on this one. The title refers to a traditional play, not a person. The concubine role is played by a male actor of female roles. The "love" between the two characters is unrequited.
    Smiles Of A Summer Night 1955 – Definitely none, just verbal dalliances
    Strike 1925 – none
    Two English Girls (Les Deux anglaises et le continent) 1971 – I don't remember any nude scenes, but the narration is quite sexually frank, even graphic, especially at the end. I was personally turned off by the final narration myself, irrespective of its tongue and cheek tone.
    Ivan the Terrible, Parts I and II 1945 - none
    Red Desert 1964 – none, but some sexual innuendo when several friends get together at a fishing shack.
    Oh, and as for All About My Mother, definitely no nudity, but the language is very sexually frank, especially by La Agrado.
     
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    Aguirre has no nudity or even any sexual situations. It's about the arrogance of civilized man in believing he can conquer nature and "primitive" people and about one man's meglomania.
    Strike has no sexual situations, and I don't think any nudity, maybe a breastfeeding. But it is a wonder of montage editing and very fast cut so no shot lingers.
    Blue Angel has no nudity. It was considered very racy at the time and the Catholic League demanded cuts, but it's mild by today's standards. Just underwear shots. Though Marlene Dietrich is very attractive.
    I would also recommend Ikiru, Children of Paradise, Cries & Whispers, Stalker, Nosferatu, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, The Wild Child, My Life To Live, Stolen Kisses, Claire's Knee, Fitzcarraldo, Das Boot, Mother & Son, Zentropa, A Better Tomorrow, The Hole, Madadayo, Dersu Uzala, Not One Less, Butterfly, The King of Masks.
    And I think In The Realm of the Senses would be perfect for you two. [​IMG]
     
  20. Scott Page

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    Thanks Pascal.

    My wife thought that "There's something about Mary" was really gross (I didn't see it) so if you were offended by Two English Girls, then I will likely skip it.
     

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