I had set my sights on a Harman Kardon AVR-525 refurb for $450 from Harman's site, but everytime they sell one and don't list a new one for a bit, I get worried they're going to disappear and its been several months since I decided to buy and the money just keeps getting sent to other things. I'm finally almost ready to buy something, but it needs to be under $500... AVR-525 - Lots of power, which is somewhat important to me, I like how it sounds (auditioned) but I sort of was biased towards it already from reading so I don't 100% trust that. 7.1 with Logic 7 (I have 5.1 but might consider adding 2 more speakers if I end up in a room where I can fit them after my next move). $450 after s/h (if one is available). Also, triple x-over sounds nice. Yamaha HTR-5760 - Ok, they claim its like 110 watts x 7 but I know that can't be as accurate as Harman's ratings. So in terms of real world power, how is this receiver? Also has DPL IIx, so maybe slightly newer processing options but then I've heard Logic 7 is pretty great too. IIx vs L7? $400 shipped from jr.com Onkyo TX-SR602 - Once did a Harman vs Onkyo vs Denon audition but again, don't entirely trust those results, think I might've been a little prejudiced from reading about H/K's power. Finally Onkyo has a reasonably priced 7.1 offering, with DPL IIx, but also heard mixed things about their power, and I'd rather have too much than just enough. I'm presently running JBL: 2 S-38IIs, 2 S-36IIs (surround), S-Center II, JBL sub (but I'll be upgrading to SVS next puchase most likely) part of my bias towards extra power is my roommate's Panasonic receiver really sounds like its struggling sometimes and everytime I hear noticable harmonic distortion I cringe. I was set on the Harman, but a) it might not be an option) and b) the whole refurb and people sending them back all the time thing and I'd probably be just as happy with something similar if the sound quality and power are comparable. Also, While I probably listen 80/20% movies/music I hope to bring that closer to 60/40 in the future (by getting more music time in). Any thoughts?