Well, my Shiva, AVA250, and FP4 port kit will be here any day now, and I still don't know exactly how I'm going to build my box. I like the looks of a traditional box, and the fact that I can do more things with it in terms of the finish on it. So a traditional box it is. BUT, I'm a little stumped on the exact dimensions (I need the 85L alignment) and port length. This is the shape and layout I am going for http://www.angelfire.com/movies/myho...ges/shiva2.jpg (nice work Kyle) and would like to duplicate it. I E-mailed Kyle and he said the dimensions were (LWH) 22"x16"x24.5" for a total volume of 3.4 cuft. So if dimensions are right, I could just duplicate that. Now for the finish. I really like the look of wood grain, so I want to veneer it. Though I have never veneered anything before so this is where I'm really stumped. I was at Revy and they had 2 kinds of veneer, both in roll's. One was 12", 24", and 36" wide and 96" long, but it looks like there are a few strips of veneer taped together to get the total width of the veneer, and the seems stand out, which I don't like. There is another kind of veneer roll which was available in a 24" width, and it seems to be one solid wide piece with no seems, it also says "pre-glued". How do you apply Pre-glued and non glued??? Another option would be to use 1/4" (maple, walnut, birch etc etc) plywood and mitre the corners or to use solid wood in the corners instead. SO, what would be the easiest way to get the "wood grain" look I desire. My best friend has all the tools, table saw, router, etc etc, so I should be set for tools. I appreciate all the help you guys have given me thus far, you guys are the reason why I went ahead with ordering the parts and this project. So thankyou for the help!