[rant]Time and time again, I read posts which compare players, and the respective weight always gets raised as a factor. The Sony ES players are repeatedly called good, as they weigh lots. The Pioneer Elite DV47 doesn't measure up - it's too light. What the heck does weight have to do with quality, or durability? Something doesn't have to weigh 30lbs to last 10 years... nor does it need to weigh 30lbs to reduce vibrations... 30lbs doesn't guarantee that the changer mechanism won't break anyway, or the tray won't jam. There have been posts which prove that. I accept that sometimes having better, or more transformers can raise the weight, but shouldn't one talk about the components used, not what they weigh? Back in the earlier mainframe days, IBM used to put led weights in their keyboards so they could charge more. The weights had no effect on the usability of the keyboard, but customers didn't think they were being ripped off. Basically, IBM played on the "heaver MUST be better" mentality. Let's stop talking about how much a DVD player weighs, and concentrate on how it sounds. [/rant] Martin.