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HDR/Dolby Vision discussion for elevated black levels & calibration issues.

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by ghostwind, Nov 2, 2018.

  1. ghostwind

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    If you can wait, I would wait for microLED displays, though it may be a bit of time. They will have all the advantages of OLED minus the disadvantages (risk of burn in, white sub-pixel, etc.)
     
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    From Plasma to 4K to microLED;
    waiting has become my most affordable norm.:mellow:
     
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    Both the 4K UHD 2001 and Superman discs have revealed the limitations in 4K projection for me. I have a cheap Optoma UHD60 projector displaying 4K discs from an Oppo 203 via a Denon AVR X7200W receiver. I've always switched the HDR off, as the projector has no chance of showing anything HDR-like. However, Superman looked even worse than the blu-ray in most scenes, with blown-out highlights and an even flatter look. Some 4K discs look fabulous projected on my system - Phantom Thread, for example. I'll keep purchasing 4K discs and wait a couple of years for projector technology - and my bank account - to catch up with the discs. I love the picture from standard blu rays and there's no question of my reducing the screen size to go for an OLED!
     
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    With projectors HDR is pointless, yet people continue to do reviews on such gear...But turning it off may actually make things worse, as the HDR->SDR translation is usually very bad for colors, etc. But yeah, I have two Panasonic 820 4K Blu-ray players, and switch between them when comparing 4K to Blu-ray discs, like 2001 and Superman. Blu-ray, as I've always said, is always the one that looks best and correct. 4K Superman is bad, 2001 hit or miss.
     
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    I am not disputing what you're seeing in your HT and experiences, but that's not entirely true for some of us in regard to watching Blu-rays versus 4K discs on our HT setups.
     
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    Exactly.

    Both the Superman and 2001 4K discs look (and sound) much better than their Blu Ray counterparts on my LG OLED.
     
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    I think it's more of an issue with the limitations of consumer projectors when it comes to displaying HDR. Right now, it just isn't possible to get a really good HDR image from a home projector. Maybe one that is far above what the average person can afford, but certainly not on anything mid-range or below.

    To be fair, as a fellow owner of an LG OLED, they are fantastic televisions. I'm so glad I ended up spending a little more than I should have in order to get one. It's a delight to watch movies on it.
     
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