From what I have seen so far with "Rome" and "Empire"...these two shows are not even on the same field. I think "Rome" will be a brutally realistic interpretation of Ancient Rome.
"HBO launches the epic 12-episode drama series Rome on Sunday..."
Abotua month ago,I read somewhere the 12 episode idea has been dropped and we can expect this show to go on for a few seasons. I think! 4 or 5 were mentioned.
I think the biggest advantage of HBO's show is its on HBO. Thus allowing the full brutality and sexuality that occured in Rome. That is something ABC's version cannot fully show.
I love The Sopranos as much as anyone, haven't missed an episode, passionately defended the 'dream' episode on more than one occasion. But given Sophie's choice, I'd have to pick Deadwood over it.
I agree, John. I realize the article was written last Fall, but I think Deadwood made enough of an impression after its first season to warrant mention in the article as one of HBO's top brand names (after all, Entourage had only finished its first season and she mentioned that).
Back on topic...I'm really looking forward to Rome. I am hoping that it will be that raw reality that we have come to respect from Deadwood (I realize it's different players bringing us Rome, but the quick previews have struck me the same way). Can't wait!
It will be very interesting to see if HBO can get away with uncensored raw brutality and sexuality with this new series.
I think probably not: because HBO is producing this series in conjunction with the BBC (which will show the program over-air in the UK), it will probably be a bit toned down by BBC censors--unless HBO produced two different versions simultaneously like they did for Sex and the City (which allowed that program to be shown on TBS).
^^I was not aware that their was a difference between a Euro broadcast and HBO. I have been to England more times than I can count to visit relatives and I have always been amazed what they show on standard television in Europe compared to the U.S.
British television tends to be infinitely more squeamish about violence and much less so about nudity. (I almost typed "sex", but the fact is American television isn't particularly squeamish about sex. Everything this side of beastiality is pretty common on much of primetime TV - to say nothing of the afternoon soaps - and even beastiality gets an airing on some of the tabloid talk shows. It is just the explicit visuals the American TV still (mostly) avoids.)
Even shows like Babylon 5 got material cut - often no more than a few seconds - when they aired on Britains commercial Channel 4 that presented no problem for American TV channels. (One scene involved a knifing where the actual stabbing is never shown. They just trimmed it to make it less intense - and coherent - skipping the shot where the victim, almost in shadow, doubles over and I think one more where we see blood on the knife in the attackers hand. This on a show that aired after 10 pm.)
So expect plenty of skin and Roman debauchery in the British version, but don't be surprised if the battle and gladiator scenes seem a bit muted.
After reading a bit more about this, it looks kinda cool. I'll probably be checking it out. I've been happy with the little streak that HBO's got going, especially as Entourage's story is opening up, so I'll be into this. Nice variety of shows too. This only adds to the mix.
Joseph, it all depends when it's shown. The censorship you mentioned was because the shows aired before 9.00 - traditionally taken as the 'watershed' on UK TV. Unless there is lots of head-butting (which Brit censors take great exception to, for some reason) chances are that the scenes will be left intact, especially as the series has some educational merit.
It's going to be a fine line for me if the violence/gore and sexuality serves the plot I'm ok with it, if it is the plot then thats another whole thing. I don't think the wife will like this if it's ultra gory.