Have you ever been mugged?

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  1. Paul_D

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    Thankfully its never happened to me. But I know people who get mugged all the time. Has anyone here ever been mugged? And if so, what happened? and what would you do if it ever happened again? Do you think there are any tactics to difuse a mugging situation? I know that first of all, staying away from quiet, dark, dangerous places is a good start. [​IMG]
     
  2. MartinTeller

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    Has anyone here ever been mugged?
    Yep.
    And if so, what happened?
    It was really late... 1 or 2 AM. I was walking to the convenience store to get a pack of smokes. This is a fairly "nice" neighborhood. A car pulls up beside me and this guy jumps out. He asks for some money. I tell him I don't have any to spare, even (and this was a dumb move) pulling out my wallet to show him that I only have a few bucks on me. He gets back in the car and I'm kind of standing there waiting for them to move on and this other guy jumps out. He punches me in the face, takes my wallet, gets back in the car, and drives off. I picked myself up out of the street, went home, and called the cops. But I didn't have very good descriptions (I'm not very observant) so they couldn't really do anything.
    and what would you do if it ever happened again?
    Same thing, except I wouldn't go flashing my wallet around. He probably saw my credit card. And I'd try to study the faces better.
    Do you think there are any tactics to difuse a mugging situation?
    Just use your head. Don't be a hero. Unless you KNOW you can overpower the guy (and they were both bigger than me), hand over whatever they want and consider it one of life's hard knocks. Don't carry lots of cash around, and don't use obvious passcodes for your ATM card.
     
  3. Jeff Pryor

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    Got mugged in downtown El Paso once when I was 19. I was drunk and stupid. They got $40 and my watch, but left my wallet. Just as soon as they ran off, a Border Patrol van pulled up. Now if only it had arrived 5 seconds earlier...
     
  4. Patrick Sun

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    A very recent true story (happened just a few days ago):

    One of the engineers in my company was in Brazil (Rio de Janeiro) and was befriended by a man and woman during a meal. They invited him to go to the bar across the street to drink some real Brazilian drinks.

    That was the last thing he remembered. The next thing he knew, he woke up on the beach half a mile away with only a wallet that was stripped of all the cash and credit cards. They had gotten his hotel room key, and took everything he had: digital camera, laptop, palm pilot, cell phone, adapters/chargers, airline tickets, etc. All in all, probably $6000 of stuff.

    Obviously he was slipped a mickey and was passed out while the thieves took what they could get their hands on.

    He was lucky in that he still had his driver's license, and a military ID (his wife was in the Navy). The military ID allowed him to get a temp passport at the American Embassy over there. He finally made it home today.

    He's glad to be alive, and all that he lost were material possession. We were glad that he wasn't missing any body organs...
     
  5. John Spencer

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    You just brought up a "fond" memory that I have of exactly why Memphis, TN is one of the friendliest cities in the world.

    Back in 1989 I got carjacked while attending Memphis State University. I drove a completely ragged-out, rust-covered, wouldn't-go-over-65-downhill 1979 Honda Prelude. One Friday night I had gone out grocery shopping really late, and got back to the dorm parking lot at around 12:30am. As I got out of my car I was approached by two black men who looked to be in their early twenties. One of them pointed a .45 at me and demanded my keys. I, shocked of course, looked at him and his companion, then took an appraising look at my car. I couldn't help but start laughing. The robbers didn't appreciate this, and the one with the pistol asked me "What's so fuckin' funny, bitch?"

    I replied, "I just can't believe you actually want to steal this car."

    Bewildered, the second robber got in my face asking me "You realize you got a gun pointed at your head?"

    To which I responded, "Yes. How do you think they made me take the car in the first place?"

    Apparently, amusing the two, they allowed me to keep the rest of my keyring except for the car key. I went to my room and called the police, but was so taken aback by the whole event that I couldn't give them a description of anything except their general heights and builds. It turned out ok, though, because 3 days later I was called by campus "security" to pick up my car on the other side of the campus in the parking lot of a set of townhouses. They were even nice enough to leave the key in the ignition. The only really bad part was that even after 3 dry-cleanings, every headrest had a discoloration caused by hair gel.
     
  6. D. Scott MacDonald

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    I've never been mugged, but I've heard that it's better to be carrying lots of cash when mugged than almost no cash at all. The reasoning they gave was that a mugger is usually looking for enough money to buy drugs. If you have lots of money, they will happily take it and run off. If you don't have much money, on the other hand, they will be pissed because they just took a risk and it didn't pay off. If they are overly frustrated, they may take it out on you. I'd much rather loose $100 than get worked over by some thugs.
     
  7. Steve Christou

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    I've never been mugged but my girl Sandra has, a few months ago as she was walking home from work, a car pulled up next to her the driver got out and grabbed at her bag, he kept pulling until the strap broke, than he got in and drove off, she was too shocked to get the number. I was so pissed off that night, I was more upset than she was, nothing much in her bag just her mobile and some credit cards which she quickly cancelled. Sandra's a small girl, the bastard could quite easily have pushed her into the car as well, fuck!
     
  8. MickeS

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    I was mugged once when I was like 10 years old, by some other kids the same age. They wanted my watch. Fortunately, some older kids from my neighborhood walked by and beat up the little muggers.

    Only time I've been in a situation like that. Knock on wood.

    /Mike
     
  9. Ryan Wright

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    Never been mugged, thank God. I wouldn't hand over shit, and would probably get myself shot. I'd fight them tooth and nail for everything.

    This is assuming I got mugged alone. If someone pointed a gun at my wife or my daughter, I'd give them anything they wanted. But if I was alone? No way. They'd have to kill or severely beat me to get anything.

    Of course, I say this now, but have no way of knowing what I would really do if I were in the situation... I'd like to think that if someone pointed a gun at my head I would hand them whatever they wanted and let them go, but truth be told, the second they turned around I'd probably try to wrestle the gun from them and end up getting shot.
     
  10. Mary M S

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    Mugging? - I Don’t know what ‘he’ had in mind.

    When my boys were smaller, I was at local do it yourself car wash, in broad daylight on a busy street, the car-wash was not busy during off time the middle of the day.

    I had two little boys playing around me with everything out of the car, mats, etc. both doors wide open, vacuuming. A man pulls up next to me, on an outer slot, with no overhang. At first, I notice he’s sitting in the doorway of his car, not doing anything but staring at me, after a bit, I finally inquire if I can help him, nervously he replies, no his car is overheated so he is letting it cool. After more time I suddenly realize that every time I am moving around/in/out of my car, his body is swaying in the doorway of his car, leaning down and up,…tracking me.

    It finally clicks and all warning bells go off. 106 Texas day, and down my other side are all the other Slots, with sold walls, roofs and shade, and he picks the full blaring sun next to me to ‘cool off’. He did not open his hood and no steam, nor attempt to get water, which would be in other slots.

    I panic, because he is starting to move more, still sitting in his car door, still bobbing, up and down, tracking me, but his motions are getting faster, he starts to rise and sits a couple of times, his hands reach out to his door column several times then he changes his mind. He looks for all the world like someone dancing on top of the high board, and backing up and moving forward faster, trying to get the courage to jump.

    I think what on earth can I do, the boys are running around, there is NO way I can snag both, and get both doors shut and secured, before he realizes I am getting out of Dodge, and he looks like he’s about to act, (on something?) any second now. I spot one man, vacuuming his car on the other side of a central building between my section and his. I spin to the boys, and say, ‘Come on, Mommy ran out of change, let’s get some more. (Change machine at the central building) The 5 yr. old ignores me, I throw the 3 yr. old on my hip, collar the 5 yr. Old’s elbow (Leaving everything open and out, even my purse on the floorboard of my car behind the front seat) march them on a line to the change machine, and when I’m far enough away from the man, I turn 90 degrees and head for the one man on the other side. I very nervously tell him I think something’s about to happen, that something’s wrong, could I please stand there with him. Beginning my explanations, I nod towards the stranger by my car, as my ‘white knight’ and I look at him, he slams his door shut, starts his engine and leaves!. The white knight is trying to decide if I’m some sort of paranoid (I’m the calm type) at first, but then sees this action and comments, “Boy did he leave in a hurry, I’ll stay with you till your done.” I said, Thank you but I’m leaving now as soon as I can get everything back in the car. I told him I did not need him to walk me to the car, (he offered) just watch, since the bad guy was gone, till I got locked in.

    As I turn to go, I’m nervous, I’m embarrassed, I’m mad, - I’m thinking, ‘Did I just imagine all that’, and just as I get the children, and stuff back in, and door locks down, I see “Him”, he’s across a 2 lane side street, in the grocery store parking lot, driving back and forth 2 miles a hour, still tracking me!

    I drive towards the ‘White Knight’ and as I do, sure enough the ‘stalker’ sees this, punches his gas and leaves.

    I don’t know what if anything, ‘he’ had in mind, but I felt like something evil bushed close by and the scales were balanced either way for a few minutes.
     
  11. D. Scott MacDonald

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    Wow Mary, that is quite a story. I'm glad that everything turned out OK.

     
  12. Shane Gralaw

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    I was robbed at gunpoint a couple of years ago when I was working at a video store. A man and his two kids were in back so I wanted to get the robber out of the store as quickly as possible before the family realized what was going on so I just gave him everything and that was that.

    Then I call the cops and one shows up within three minutes and comes running in, very excited, and starts stuttering really badly, "W-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w" and I'm guessing "What did he look like? Which way did he go?", ect. That sort of broke the tension for me and I lightened up about the whole thing.

    They caught the guy (he did the same thing dressed the same way at another video store the next day) and by the time I was called to testify, I had forgot all about it. The prosecuter was a hard-ass ice queen type and didn't like that I wasn't more traumatized ("Well, I won't even put you on the stand if you're gonna say THAT!"), so she stuck to the facts with me and got the really juicy, tear-filled testimony from the girl from the second store. The robber got 27 years which I thought was ridiculous. I've heard of murderers getting less time and no one got hurt here. Too bad the defense never bothered to contact me. The robber was a heroin junkie, it turns out, and should probably be in rehab right now instead of jail and I would have said so had they bothered to ask.
     
  13. Jeremy-P

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    Once during a conversation with my cousin, who had it a little tougher growing up, I asked him what he'd do if someone stuck him up from behind and asked for his shoes. He simply replied that he'd refuse and try to fight back. For a pair of shoes? He said they're nice shoes, he worked hard for them and didn't want some punk getting them without a fight.

    That fighting urge you get, it's called pride, but this is definitely one situation in life where you don't want to let it shine. Heroes are for movies. Listen to the D, he's right, it's just stuff. Your life is precious and everything else can be replaced.
     
  14. Richard Kim

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    Several years ago, a homeless guy on the street asked me for some change. I gave him some change, but then pulled out a gun and took 80 bucks from me. I called the cops afterwards, but they never found the guy. This is why I no longer give money to homeless people on the street.
     
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    I've never been mugged, but I used to work as a Loss Prevention person prior to my current career. One day I followed a shoplifter out of the Downtown Jones Store (Kansas City, MO. Now closed), and he took off running. He tried to cross the street, but a car was coming, so he had to get back on the sidewalk. When he did, he stumbled, and that gave me enough time to catch him. We started fighting on the sidewalk. Another LP person came up and tried to mace him, but got me instead. Suddenly, I see something coming at us fast from the street. I look up and see a Marine in full dress uniform. He basically runs, jumps into the air, spreads his arms out to his sides, and hits the shoplifter full speed with his chest, smashing him against the wall. We picked the shoplifter up and cuffed him, and the Marine left.
    When I filled out my report, under the "Apprehended By" column, I wrote, "LP Tennison, LP Martin and the United States Marine Corps!" [​IMG]
     
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    Luckily I've never been mugged, but I've had a few close calls. The first came when I was 13. I was walking around downtown by myself, something I did often. A large, scruffy white guy was walking toward me. He had longish red hair, and a very bushy, unkempt mustache. He asked me if I had any change, and I said no. He was in front of me and started walking backwards, and kept asking if I had any change. I kept telling him no, and started getting quite nervous. It was around 2pm, and there wasn't a soul in sight. I start moving to one side to pass the guy, and he put his arms out. This guy was quite big, especially to a 13-year-old, and I could tell there was no way I could get past him. He then told me I was going to give him all my money. As I said "what?!?" he suddenly dropped his arms, put his head down, and brushed past me. I looked around, and a young, black businessman had just rounded the corner. The guy was tiny, but just the fact that there was a witness had scared the guy off. I stopped for a minute until the businessman caught up with me. I thanked him, which confused the heck out of him, then walked along and explained what had happened. I was relieved just to have someone nearby at the time, and he was kind enough to walk me to my bus stop, which was only slightly out of my way.

    A few years later, I was downtown again, and I was approached by a blind man. He appeared to be having a difficult time, and asked if I might help him get to the drug store. I was more than happy to help. He took my arm, and I walked him the three blocks to the drug store. As we got there, he explained that he didn't have enough money for his prescription, and asked if he might borrow a few. For some reason, right at that moment, an extremely uneasy feeling washed over me. I told him I was broke, and quickly broke contact with him. I couldn't explain the feeling, and felt kind of bad about leaving a blind man alone when he was obviously having a hard time getting around, but that feeling of unease was a bit too much. I found out two days later from a friend who worked downtown that the guy wasn't blind, and was wanted for a string of muggings. He'd ask people to escort him to his destination. If he got a free chance or could persuade them into a deserted parking lot or alley, he'd pull out a small gun and demand their money, then run off. If he never got the chance, he'd simply explain that he was broke and ask for spare change or cash. I believe they caught him about a week later.

    The last one came when I was 19. My friends were really into Rush at the time, which was a legal inhalent that intensified your buzz if you were drinking. If you weren't drinking, it would simply give you a headache. The Ohio State Legislature had just passed a law making the selling of Rush illegal, and it was going to go into effect at the beginning of the next month. At the time, my buddies needed me to buy it for them, since the only place that sold it was McCook's Adult Theater (an extremely sleazy little peep show/adult video & toy store), and you needed to be 18 to get in. Of those of us who were 18, one refused to go in there, and one had lost his license. That left me. Every weekend, we'd stop at McCook's, and I'd run in and buy a bottle. I never used it myself, but was more than willing to help my friends out. I usually parked out front, but this time, which turned out to be the last time due to the new law, I parked around the side. I was planning on buying as many bottles as the $40 they had given me would buy (ended up being just two--the last two in the store). McCook's is in a particularly bad neighborhood, but we generally felt safe parking at McCook's since the nearest police station was directly behind the store. This kept most crime away, with the only exception being the more-than-occasional prostitution (it's also a favorite place for prostitution stings). I ran in, bought the two bottles, and ran back out. Where I had parked was slightly secluded, and rather dark. A guy ran up as I was getting in and asked me to stop. He wasn't very big--all but one of the five of us guys (who were all packed into my little Chevette, along with a female friend of ours), were much bigger than he was. He explained that he had run out of gas and needed about $15 so he could fill up and make it home to Indiana(at the time, gas was under $1/gallon, and the little car he pointed out as being his could never take a $15 fillup). I told him I had no money. I also kept my door wide open so my friends would hear what was going on. The guy called me an f'in liar, and now demanded $20. I tried talking my way out of it, but he was getting more irate. I then quite loudlyp explained that he didn't want to f*** with me, because he'd have to deal with my four buddies as well. They didn't respond, so I said it again. Then again. He now told me to shut the f*** up, and give him all my money. I finally said "look, idiot, the police station is about 50 yards away. Get the hell out of here, or I'll start yelling 'rape'!" He called me a few choice names, then walked back to his car. I was shaking from the adrenaline rush as I got back in the car, and thanked the four idiots who sat there while this guy was making threats against me. They insisted they only stayed in the car because they thought I had everything under control.
     
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    In high school i was running a errand for one of the teachers and a huge guy tried to rob me on a the stairwell landing. At first i was shocked since nothing like that happened to me before. At first I didnt do anything since he had me pinned against the wall, then i saw a girl just pass by. She didnt even walk down 2 feet to get help. That pissed me off so much my adrenaline took over and I just took the guy and pushed him down the flight of stairs. Someone else saw towards the end and got the security guards. Its a very scary thing which i hope dosnt happen to anyone

    capt
     
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    Some time ago I read or saw about a "throw-down wallet." Maybe during the infamous incident in the NY Subway where the guy ("Bernard"?) pulled a gun and shot the muggers on the platform.

    I dont do this around town, but I've rigged an old wallet with no more than $25 and some old cards in the glassine holders on some vacation trips where I'm in a large, strange crowd (pickpockets) or otherwise in strange territory.

    I guess the technique is to "throw down" the wallet then turn tail and run. I dont know how this works when faced with a gun, and a wise-guy who looks inside the wallet while you're standing there.
     
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    Some really fasinating stories so far! I'm glad to hear that you all got away unharmed from your respective attacks. [​IMG]
     

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