Have my subs damaged my house?

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  1. Neal Siva

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    All right, here's what happened guys, I have the NSP1 package, and two sony sa-wm40s in my 15x18 living room. I've had them for close to 4 months, and haven't had any problems until now. The ceiling above my living room is dry wall, and there are 6 wooden planks that are laid out horizantally, covering only 20% of the dry wall. I just got up and I see that from one of the wooden planks, there are two holes that are dripping water. Also, water flows from across that location when taking a shower upstairs. I just want to know if it seems that my subwoofers have caused this. I usually put it up to reference level, like three times a week for around four hours for music, video games, and home theater. I put the subs to a moderate level, one that I can listen to for long durations of time without any discomfort. I'm really in denial because I don't want to loose my home theater, and the plumbing is going to cost me a fortune! Any advice would be appreciated.
     
  2. Manny_S

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    How old is the house? What type of material does the plumbing consist of? PVC, copper, etc?
     
  3. Michael Roderiques

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    I can tell you I have seen woofers crack drywall and stucco. Also shook the siding loose from the house. An HT install that was done by a crazy person I know used a huge number of subs. 4 18’s on the LFE alone. John is almost deaf and plays things very loud. He also has way to much money and time. I wish I had a picture of this. The front wall was speakers, subs and a screen. After a few months of use, the HT room had a strange rattle. We finally figured out what it was. The exterior siding on the wall that was the front of the HT room was falling off the house. Also the stucco around the other side was full of spider webs of cracks with small chunks falling out. The drywall around the windows and doors was cracking. This was a second story addition over the garage.


    I doubt that this problem you are experiencing is from your sub-woofers. More likely old plumbing.
     
  4. ArtG

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    No point in jumping to conclusions.

    Obviously, you'll have to repair the damage. When you do so, be sure to find out EXACTLY what the problem is. If you have a line that burst, then your subs are not to blame. If you have a fitting that worked loose, then maybe the subs were contributory. You'll never know for sure because they might not have been properly tightened in the first place.

    You'll have more luck ruling them out than ruling them in. But find out the actual problem and then we can go from there.

    By any chance, were you watching WaterWorld?
     
  5. David*RT

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    It seems that your subs exacerbated whatever was flaky in construction in your house. Most American homes are shoddily built, so it's not strange that the subs are bringing out the feebleness of the construction.

    Bring a contractor out to see what is the problem if you can't figure it out and how much it will cost to fix. Then yoy can decide what appropriate action to take.
     
  6. Bryan Michael

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    if the pluming is abs or pvc it wont come lose you might have a leak around the drain or something like that seales get old and leak
     
  7. Brian Bunge

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    Unless your house was made of straw or sticks, I'd seriously doubt those little Sony subs could do any damage whatsoever. They're just not capable of reproducing SPL's high enough for such damage to occur.

    Brian
     
  8. Eric T

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    I'm with Brian, I doubt that your subs could have created enough vibrations to cause a leaky pipe. Probably just an unfortunate coincidence. Sorry to hear about your leak [​IMG]
     
  9. Neal Siva

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  10. Brian Bunge

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    Neal,

    There's absolutely no way that those particular subs could do any structural damage to your house. You'll require a lot more power and drivers capable of a lot more displacement to do any damage. Those little Sony's just ain't gonna do that.

    Brian
     
  11. Neal Siva

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    A plumbing specialist just took a look at the problem, and he said that as far as he could tell, none of the pipes were broken. He went upstairs, and tightened the bolts on the back of the toilet and the shower. His reasoning was the loose bolts on the shower caused the water to come out without going through the pipe, causing the leak downstairs. Also, the pipes are made up of copper, if that matters. So know my dad is pissed of saying that the subs caused these vibrations. Could it be a coincidence? I'd appreciate some advice, cause I'm afraid I won't be able to use my hometheater setup!!!! [​IMG]
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  12. ArtG

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    There's no way to know for sure, though it's highly unlikely that HT is the cause. For the simple reason that if it were this would happen a lot more often.

    The best thing to do is blast away. If it happens AGAIN, and assuming the specialist retightened properly, then you have your answer.
     
  13. TerryHenson

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    Can't help but chuckle at this thread. There is no way a vibration is going to loosen a pipe joint without it being already loose. I suppose it's possible for it to make a loose coupling looser, but then a problem already existed.

    Fix your plumbing problems, then crank up the music.
     
  14. ArtG

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    Would you change your mind and admit there's SOME possibility if a harmonic was being generated? Soldiers break rank on a bridge to avoid the off-chance of creating a harmonic and having the bridge go boom.
     
  15. Brian Bunge

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    Art,

    The one thing I keep trying to get Neal to realize is that subwoofers can, do, and have caused structural damage to people's residences. It's just that the subs mentioned here, which consist of a cheap $25 or so driver, with a low powered amp in a lightweight enclosure (read cheap), just aren't capable of doing much more than shaking the floor a bit and scaring the cat. Yes, it's one of the best subs out there for the money. But that's the only thing special about it.

    Brian
     
  16. Neal Siva

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    Thanks everyone for posting, and yeah, I'm aight now. I think it's finally got through my head that there's no need to worry about my house! [​IMG] Thanks again.
     

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