Have a cracked Police *Every Breath You Take: The Classics * SACD? Go here!

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  1. KeithH

    KeithH Lead Actor

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    Like some of you, my US pressing of The Police Every Breath You Take: The Classics hybrid SACD developed spindle cracks after a few weeks. Not wanting to take a chance with another US pressing, I ordered the European pressing from www.amazon.co.uk . With shipping, it cost about $19 and got here in two weeks. I was hoping the European version would be in a Super Jewel Box, but it is in a digipak. The back cover says "Made in the EU." Anyway, problem solved! [​IMG]

    Now if I could only get a good copy of the Norah Jones Come Away With Me SACD. [​IMG]
     
  2. charles white

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    I've had my copy for months and there are no cracks. However,
    my DSoTM's spindle cracks have become tiny flakes. This disc's days are numbered!
     
  3. MattCPT

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    Keith,
    Thanks for the link to the Police SACD. I intend to replace mine due to spindle cracks. I noticed that Amazon.co.uk also has Pink Floyd DSOTM SACD. Do you know if this SACD is also pressed in Europe and is safe from the Crest factory spindle cracks? I would love to replace my current copy as well.

    If you find a safe copy of Nora Jones please let me know. I plan to return the one I have due to spindle cracks. I'm very disappointed in how difficult it is to find artist that I like with multichannel hybrid SACDs. I refuse to buy any SACD now until I hear from others where it is pressed and if spindle cracks have been found. This is a huge blow to SACD in my mind.

    Thanks,
    Matt
     
  4. Jigesh Patel

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    Apologize for a side question...

    The same title also comes as DTS . Which has a "better" (I know - it's a matter of personal taste..) surround mix? May be not too ideal a comparison though - one high resolution surround audio and the other just surround audio..

    Thank you.

    Jigesh
     
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  6. KeithH

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    Matt, no problem. The Dark Side of the Moon SACDs coming from amazon.co.uk should be European pressings because I know that this title was pressed in Europe. I'm sure you would be safe ordering from amazon.co.uk. However, you may be able to find a Japanese pressing at a local store, which would be crack-free. Have you looked? To identify a Japanese pressing, look at the catalog number. The catalog number for the US pressing ends in "1-US", while the Japanese pressing has no US designation in the catalog number. Also, if you read the small-print copyright blurb on the back insert, the Japanese pressing says "Disc Manufactured in Japan". When I first heard about the Crest problems and realized that I had a US pressing of Dark Side of the Moon, I immediately exchanged it for a Japanese pressing at a local Best Buy.
     
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    I guess I'm a little late to this, but is there an official response from the makers of these discs? I just got the DSOTM disc & I've touched it like twice & mine's cracked already.

    Shouldn't they be offering to replace such an obviously defective product?


    -Dan
     
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    Does anyone have discs cracked to the point where they don't play? If my discs crack and won't play, they are retired, end of story. I have bought vinyl, cd, and now SACD/DVD-A. I won't buy anything a 4th time till the next upgrade.
     
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    I had a cracked DSOTM that actually broke across the radius of the disc. ICE Magazine is a good suggestion for who to do a story on this... (I sent an email to S&V a little while ago, and I know that John Kotches from WSR is aware of this issue as well.)
     
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    OK, I'm too lazy to find the "cracked DSOTM" thread, but I found a Japanese version today, and I wasn't even looking! Back to your normally scheduled programming...
     
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  18. KeithH

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    I still haven't bought another Norah Jones SACD since I have no reason to believe that Crest has adequately addressed the problem.

    There is no excuse for these cracks to be forming, and Crest's lack of a response thus far is an atrocity. Geez, I have CDs that are 20 years old that have not in any way lost structural integrity.
     
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    Sorry to ask a blatantly obvious question, but
    how do you know if a disc was pressed at crest?
    and what do these cracks actually look like (other than that they are around the hub center in an arc?) Are they slight hairline, or very noticable cracks?

    Thanks.
     
  20. KeithH

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    Chris, most hybrid SACDs pressed in the US have been done at the Crest plant. I believe Sony's hybrid pressing facility came online later on. I don't have any of my Crest discs handy, but I'm sure there is a unique look to the matrix code (code numbers on mirror band, near the plastic ring). Pressing plants typically have their unique system for matrix codes. Perhaps someone here will chime in with matrix code information.

    In my limited experience with cracked discs, the cracks were hairline in nature, but easily noticeable. I didn't even have to hold the discs up to the light to see the cracks. Also, the cracks were very short (under a quarter-inch), but some people have reported the cracks getting longer and longer over time and even the plastic flaking.
     

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