I have a friend that is planning to jump into a surround sound setup and wants to keep things within a FIRM $500 budget. He has a player already (an older Mits DD-1000) and a TV. He is looking to add a complete set of speaks for 5.1 (not planning to buy a partial set up and add on later) and a receiver. DTS and the latest sound formats are not a priority (he won't even be able to run DTS soundtracks because of the player). He was considering a Kenwood or Sony HTiB set up but I think he may be able to do better with his budget. Factory refurbished units make him nervous so I think we would need to stick to new equipment. I still think it can be done, but it would be tight. What do you think?