Has anyone here played online poker?

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  1. LarryDavenport

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    I've been hooked on the Travel Channel's World Poker Tour and have thought about signing up for one of the online poker pages. I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with any of the many pages.

    My friends get together every couple months to play, but I'd like to play more often.
     
  2. Gregg Shiu

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    I've played on Partypoker quite a bit, as it's the only one I know of which allows people who aren't 21 yet to play for money (you have to be over 18). It's fun but if you're anything like me, you'll wanna stick to games with friends since you can actually see your opponents faces. Of course, you're supposed to play based on how they bet, but there's too many factors I take into consideration when it's online, that might not even factor in. From what I've noticed, low limit tables will always have a player or two who will always call, so I stick with high-limit or no limit.
     
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    Partypoker.com is pretty fun -- especially now since they've added a lot more tables. You can play either for money or for free.

    Playing online is a completely different experience from playing in person, however. And the free tables are even more unlike real, live poker (people are much more willing to call when there's no real money at stake).

    Still, it's a fun distraction. : )

    -- Robert
     
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    There's your problem. The lower the limit the more "calling stations" you will encounter. Hell, you can easily get this on any limit poker but there are less of these guys the higher the limit. Players will continue to go for those long shots since they are limited on the amount they need to risk. 8 or 16 dollars to get that inside straight? If they can afford it they will do it.

    I have played on 20-40 and higher limit games that have played like a 3-6 limit game. Same stupid players just deeper pockets.

    I never get mad over losing one hand on a bad beat. Just as long as they don't cash out and continue to go for them longshots, I'm fine with it. In fact, I like when they at least have one or two successful gambles because they will start thinking they can win with 4-6 off suit every time. I think of it as an investment.[​IMG]

    As for online poker, I think every sight has free play. I would recommend playing for free on a couple of sites and choose the one that feels right.

    I only play for free on pokerroom.com. I have almost $500K now![​IMG] I wish they played this loose with real money.
     
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    Larry...I have been thinking exactly the same way. Watching all of the tournaments on the Travel Channel (plus Binion's WSoP) has lulled me into thinking I'm a guru by now.

    Especially when you hear and see all of the amateurs performing so well. Perhaps I'll be the one on the commercial wrapped in a parka, huddled next to some igloos, and warmed up by some cinderellas. [​IMG]

    Well, at least we can dream.
     
  8. Patrick Sun

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    Yeah, nothing like playing for real, being ahead in the hand (like you'd be rated at a 94% favorite to win the hand), but your opponent gets that one single card to bust you at the River, and you go down on a bad beat. Grr....
     
  9. LarryDavenport

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    FWIW-I much rather play in person too, so much so that I just ordered 800 casino quality chips and a couple carrying cases and I'm having a friend build a poker table.

    In the past my friends and I just played nickel-dime-quarter, with a dollar limit raise, playing dealer's choice (lots of 7-Card Stud, 5-Card Draw, 7-27, and 5-Card No Peak).

    Now we (7 of us) are planning on having our own mini-WPT tournament. Everyone is going to kick in $20. Winner take all. (Actually, Third place gets $20, Second gets $40, and the winner gets the balance ($100).

    My friend, who is organizing it, wants to play Texas Hold'Em exclusively, and I'm wondering how fun that will be. It looks great on TV, but for practice I dealt out 25 rounds of 5-person hands, and out of 125 hands, I only had six that I would see betting on. What do you do when everyone folds? I understand there are things called blinds that force play on every round, but I can't find a good explanation that I can pass on to my friends.
     
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    My poker-playing buds are now exclusively playing No Limit Texas Holdem tournament style. We use this payout scheme: 10% for 3rd place, 20% for second place, and 70% for the winner. I've won a couple of times, and gotten bounced out when I was ahead in the hand until I got a bad beat on the river.

    And, Yes, the blind bets should go up every hour of play (or if you go around the table some arbitrary amount of time, like 10 hands), and then when you have blinds that are worth playing for, people that are already in for the small or big blind will usually stay in (and those are the people to be wary of because if no one raises before the flop, then they could be sitting on anything, and with a crazy flop, they can blindside you).

    Blinds are what keep the pot interesting, with the idea of keeping a few players in play for each hand (unless someone bets aggressively and pushes everyone else with a so-so hand out before the flop).

    The 2 people to the left of the dealer/dealer button are responsible for putting in the blinds. The player to the immediate left of the dealer puts in the blind bet, and the 2nd player to the left of the dealer puts in twice the blind bet.
     
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    So Patrick, do I understand that in Hold'Em there is no ante? Just the small and big blinds to start?

    Thanks for the recommendation Matt. I'll pick the book up payday.
     
  13. Matt Gordon

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    Larry,

    Check it out before you buy it; it may or may not be at your level. Some really like it, while others think it's a little weak.


    Matt
     
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    Larry, once the small and big blinds are in the pot, next comes the betting before the flop. Each player has to match the big blind (or raise the bet, or match a raise) to stay in the hand, else they must fold their hand.

    Also, if a player goes bust early, our games feature "buy-ins" where you can buy more chips to play (and usually that just promotes a bigger pot because it's rare that someone who has to buy-in again will win the tournament). Usually we set a time limit on when buy-ins are closed (like 2 hours after the start of play. And the starting entry fee is $10, and buy-ins are also $10. This can be adjusted to however high people want to play in terms of stakes in the game.
     
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    Larry, really quickly, here's a round of limit poker

    On a "4-8" limit Hold Em table
    1) No Ante
    2) Hands are dealt
    3) Person to the left of Dealer position (which rotates everyhand) is the Small Blind and HAS to put up $2
    4) Person to the left of the Small Blind is the Big Blind and HAS to put $4.
    5) Person to the left of Big Blind has option to Fold, Call with $4 or raise with 4+4.
    6) This continues around until it gets back to Small Blind, if there has been no calls or raises, Small Blind only needs to put up an additional $2 to Call.
    7) If there are no raises until the Big Blind, then Big Blind gets to "Raise" himself.
    8) Flop occurs (3 cards), no blinds, only folding, betting of $4, calling of $4, or raising of $4
    9) Turn Card (4th card), betting unit is now $8
    10) River Card (5th Card), betting unit is now $8

    Hope this makes sense.
     
  16. Patrick Sun

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    After playing both limit and no limit holdem, I prefer no limit holdem because you can do more in terms of bluffing, or trapping of your opponent based on your betting pattern.

    Limit holdem just doesn't have the high stakes (in a neighborhood game) to elicit the same kind of "high" you get in a no limit game when you execute the right bluff or trap to pick up the pot and boot out your opponent. [​IMG]
     
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    This is the only way to go if you want "the best man" to have the best chance of winning. It's a crap shoot when you do dealer's choice and the game changes every hand and deuces are wild and all that shit.

    Dealer's choice is fun when it's just your buddies looking for an excuse to hang out, drink beer, and smoke cigars. If you're looking to see who is the best poker player then you really need to keep the game consistant with NO WILDS. Playing the same game throughout the tourney is also key. It don't matter if you play Hold'em, Stud, Omaha, Go Fish or whatever. Just keep the game the same so that you take some of the randomness (and luck) out of the tourney to allow the skilled players to shine through.

    Winning at Hold'em requires being able to read cards, people and situations. It also requires a lot of patience and money management. Anyone can win one or two hands of poker. The true skill comes out over time. "You gotta know when to hold them, know when to fold them," as Kenny would say.

    If you are playing a game that uses wild cards then anybody can have anything. In Hold'em, with practice, you can call out people's hands pretty much like Matt Damon did in Rounders (although that scene stretched reality a bit.) That is where the skill comes in and that is how the cream rises to the top.

    When I played frequently, I might not play a hand for an hour as I waited for good cards and the right situation. On TV, it might look like they are playing every other hand but you gotta keep in mind that they are editing 12 hours per day of play into a one hour TV show. If you consider about 30-40 hands dealt per hour then that is a lot of folding.
     
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    This is why gambling can be very addictive. You get that adrenaline rush of being all in or catching the perfect card on the river. Especially in a tournament where elimination is on the line every time someone goes all in.
     
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    I know someone that played on Partypoker a lot. Lost about $7k.
     
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    I play the $5 no limit games at partypoker.com a lot. There are a lot of wild bettors but they're easily trapped.
    Im my estimation, I'm pretty much breaking even vs. the players while the entry fees chip away at my bankroll. The $10 tables are a lot better deal in that respect, but I need to cut down on my self destructing plays before I play anything more than $5 regularly.
     

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