Has anyone ever gambled online? Casino On Net?

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  1. Robert_eb

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    I'm a bit skeptical about online gaming sites and I was wondering if anyone has expierence on various gaming sites. I just regiestered with Casino On Net and was wondering if they pay when you win or if this is some scam.
     
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    I would expect that they pay if you win but I would never trust a site like that. If you go to Vegas and gamble you know that the place is regulated and there is a chance of winning but there is no telling who's running the show online. For all we know the online casino is being run out of a trailer in Havana Cuba and it has been programmed to pay out $1 for every $100 wagered.
     
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    I've heard that Nevada just passed something last year allowing the casinos to do online gaming. Not sure, but I would sure be more comfortable gaming with a "name brand" casino.
     
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    I've used sportsbook.com for sports betting, and it seems legitimate. I would never trust an online casino for table games, for the reasons stated earlier.
     
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    I got suckered in once when e-Casinos were giving free money to play there. Of course the best idea is to cash out and not play one game. I am, of course, an idiot. With little blackjack experience I played the game and went up around $150. At that point I was damn excited. Then I slowly but surely went downward. "Just one more and I'll start to win my money back" I thought. Of course I went down about -$40 or so. I remember at some point, I was getting the same situations over and over again. I got a 15 and the dealer got 18, hit me and I busted. It's like the program turned on my and wasn't putting out random hands anymore but just loser hands. I think I bottomed out at -$120.

    My theory is they give you winning hands at first, just to get you hooked. You go up around $100, and they know you won't cash out, or very few will. Then they get their hooks in you and you have to decide when enough is enough.
     
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    The other thing I wonder about is how many decks the online casino use. If it uses six or eights decks as the regular casinos do, it would actually be in your best interest to play online because you could then count cards with no fear of getting caught. It would be interesting to know how their computers are programmed...
     
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    I'm the Sys Admin for an online wagering site based out of Australia (I'm in Southern California). We have sports books and pari-mutual sites in New Zealand and Australia (closed to US cutomers). We do have a pari-mutual online site in the US, though. (I'd tell you the URL but it's against forum rules - email me if you really want to know. And "no" I can't increase your bank roll...[​IMG]). Basically, we're the online middleman between you and the track's tote system. You have to have an account with the tote first.
    We had a casino site for a few months but after some laws changed in Australia, we ended up selling it. I can tell you that everything was on the up and up (at least with our site). For the casino test games, it used your system's random number generator. For the real games, though, it used the main system's (Unix) RNG.
    Regulatory issues are very serious and we have to show a tremendous amount of ability; redundancy, logging, security.
     
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    The old adage still applies "Credit cards and casinos don't mix". At a live casino, I'll use my alotted cash. My credit card never comes out. In my opinion, the same rule applies to online casinos. But, you can decide differently.

    But, realistically, what is the fun of an online casino? Half the reason to gamble at all is for the fun at sitting at a table with the dealer and other patrons in the fancy setting. You don't get any of this online.

    Remember casino gambling should be entertainment, otherwise it's just like playing the lottery.
     
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    Funny I worked for a company at my last job who was developing pre-paid ATM cards and one of the businesses that was interested in the cards was the online Gaming companies so that they would have a way to pay people out and take money from people that didnt have credit cards.

    My advice to EVERYONE is DO NOT PLAY at online gaming companies. First to be able to gamble the company has to have its servers off shore or in another Country so your ability to go after them for fraud is next to impossible. Second is that they are set to take in so much out of every dollar PERIOD. There is no luck involved. The company we were looking to partner with would give us about .35c per dollar. So if they were able to give us that what were they taking per dollar? .75-.95c per dollar?

    Even when you are playing BlackJack they dont use a deck just randomly generated cards since between each Deal the deck is shuffled and that can be manipulated too to only pay out every 3rd deal or 15 etc...

    Stay away Stay VERY far away.

    KyleS
     
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    Regarding the random number generator vs. real deck:

    If the online casinos do not use a deck system (as the practice simulators do), does that mean that each card dealt is just a randomly picked card from a hypothetical deck? For example, the Ace of Spades (as well as all other cards) has a 1 in 52 chance of being drawn from a real deck of cards. Does the casino start the random number process after each card, potentially resulting in 10 Aces of Spades being dealt in a row?

    And if they do that, what's to prevent them from conveniently eliminating a couple of face cards from the "real" deck, therefore giving the house an extra edge? (For those unaware, the purpose of counting cards is to determine when there is a preponderance of tens and aces, and then maximizing your bets to benefit from the 3:2 payout on blackjacks. If done successfully, you can actually change the odds of the game in your favor. And, of course, that's why the casinos forbid card counting.)
     
  13. Kevin Coleman

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    I thought online gaming was illegal unless you have gaming in your state? I really don't know I am just wondering.
    Kevin C. [​IMG]
     

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