HARRY POTTER - too much compression?

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  1. Dick

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    My widescreen HARRY POTTER doesn't look as good as most recent films on DVD. It seems to exhibit compression problems - on vertical pans (even horizontal ones) the picture seems to get more pixilated than what I am used to seeing. The feature dis is silver, too - and though the box says "Dual Layer," I thought all dual layer discs were gold. Is there even a layer change, or did Warner actually squeeze the entire 154-minutes onto a single layer (which would certainly explain the visual problem I note above). This issue may have already been covered in another Potter thread, but I don't remember seeing it. Am I the only one who notices this?
     
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    There is a layer change, poorly done, but it is there. It is near the end of the scene with the troll in the girls bathroom. Just as Professor Quirrell has shooed the kids out of the room, and the troll grunts startling Quirrell, the layer changes. Why they couldn't have delayed this a couple seconds and changed during the edit between scenes is beyond me.

    Do the people who master these discs choose the layer change, or do they just kind of have to let it happen where it happens? I've seen some pretty bad changes recently. It would seem so simple to me to have it at an edit, between scenes, but it always seems to be in the middle of the scene. In HP, it ruined one of the jokes.
     
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    I think that the main problem is that Harry Potter is full of bright colors, smoke and night scenes with lots of background motion, aka the stuff of compressionists' nightmares. Even a high bitrate dual-layer disc can't quite handle it, although FWIW I think the DVD looks pretty much as I remembered the movie from theaters. The only other possibility would've been to split the movie across two discs.
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    Don't forget it was lit by a 3 legged monkey (at least the opening) so that couldn't have helped
     
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    Not to mention the cinematographer, Oscar winner John Seale. But hey, what does he know? [​IMG]
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    Not being the AV expert that many of you are, the only scene that really bothered me visually was at the very end, where Harry is on the stairs approaching Quirrell/Voldemort. The stairs were flickering, which was quite annoying even to a semi-critical eye.
     
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    Here's what I don't get. JFK (Oliver Stone Collection) is 205 minutes. It is on one disc and has a commentary. It looks damn good with no problems that I can tell. How come Harry Potter sucks?
     
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    Steve,
    Agreed!
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    But now compare the HARRY POTTER trailer to same scenes from the actual feature... the trailer looks gorgeous, but the feature has all the aliasing and pixelation.
     
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    was it the lighting that made faces more orange in hp?
     
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    In support of what was said above, the first fifteen minutes on the movie were lit terrible, and looked very grainy even in the theatre. Simply because one is an oscar winner does not make them an expert, incabable of making poor choices, and thinking such is a logical fallacy.

    cheers!

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