HARRY POTTER -- comparison of WS v FS (merged thread)

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Karen Maraj, May 26, 2002.

  1. Karen Maraj

    Karen Maraj Agent

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2000
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    0
    http://plum.cream.org/HP/dvd.htm
     
  2. John Torrez

    John Torrez Second Unit

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2000
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think I'll just stick to the widescreen version. It's what was shown in theaters.
     
  3. Danny R

    Danny R Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    May 23, 2000
    Messages:
    871
    Likes Received:
    0
    So what extra's are included on the DVD?
    For this price there had better be a LOT!!!
     
  4. Jorge Montes

    Jorge Montes Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2001
    Messages:
    121
    Likes Received:
    0
    I seem to prefer EVERY SINGLE widescreen image. Not only does it seem more appropriately composed, but more of the important elements are being shown.

    ex. chess pieces, one of Fluffy's heads, Ron, Quirell and half of Snape, and good ol' Hedwig.

    Besides, widescreen is the OAR and that's simply the most important aspect about aspect ratio in my book.

    Widescreen please.
     
  5. Chris Bardon

    Chris Bardon Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    2,059
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm with Jorge-it seems the ones that the author preferred the widescreen in showed more important info.

    As for the shots, it seems like the film was shot open matte, but why then show it theatrically at 2.35 as opposed to 1.85? Isn't that the ratio that most open matte films are shown at?

    Either way, I'll be getting the WS disc Tuesday...
     
  6. GerardoHP

    GerardoHP Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2001
    Messages:
    703
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Los Angeles, California
    Real Name:
    Gerardo Paron
    This seems completely subjective and speculative. What does "better" mean? Like others said, always choose the original theatrical aspect ratio version. You can't go wrong.
     
  7. Jorge Montes

    Jorge Montes Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2001
    Messages:
    121
    Likes Received:
    0
    It's not open-matte. It's Super35. At least that's what IMDb says: And, much like with other Super35 flicks, the director gets to fiddle with composition for both WS and FS, thus causing the confusion. T2:Ultimate Edition has a great lil' feature on this.
    Another reason against the FS (besides the obvious "It's not OAR!!!!): Anamorphic.
     
  8. David Lambert

    David Lambert Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2001
    Messages:
    11,380
    Likes Received:
    38
    Interesting compare, but I'll stick with the widescreen version.
    I think the poster of those pictures skewed the "competition". There were two different scenes in the film, one of them with Fluffy's three heads going from edge-to-edge of the screen, which I turned to my wife and said "pan-and-scan THAT!". It is very telling that neither scene is depicted in this comparison! [​IMG]
    If ya want, I'll screencap those and post them after I get my copy and watch it.
     
  9. SteveA

    SteveA Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2000
    Messages:
    700
    Likes Received:
    0
    Anyone notice how badly some of the 4:3 scenes suffer from cropping? I'm sticking with the OAR version, which is widescreen. I don't buy the argument that the film was framed for 4:3.
     
  10. Bryan Tuck

    Bryan Tuck Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2002
    Messages:
    1,713
    Likes Received:
    226
    Real Name:
    Bryan Tuck
    Does anyone know what process was used for the F/X shots? VistaVision, maybe? Usually, these shots have to be hard-matted to whatever ratio is being shown in theaters, but here they are opened up as well.

    I do know sometimes F/X shots for Super 35 films are shot in a ratio of 2:1 and then matted to 2.35:1 during printing. Does anyone know if this is the case here?

    At any rate, I will be going with the widescreen version.
     
  11. Adam Lenhardt

    Adam Lenhardt Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2001
    Messages:
    17,329
    Likes Received:
    1,925
    Location:
    Albany, NY
    Didn't we in turn already cover this topic in the HTF Harry Potter thread here?
     
  12. John Doroshenk

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2000
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    0
  13. Bill Balcziak

    Bill Balcziak Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 1999
    Messages:
    871
    Likes Received:
    0
    If those images are accurate, it would suggest that "Joe Trust Fund" (JTF$) might not be seeing the whole picture with his widescreen copy of HPATSS. It just goes to show that absolute allegience to a doctrine (e.g., "widescreen is always best") can be a fool's errand.
    It's nice to see J6P win one. [​IMG]
     
  14. Ken_McAlinden

    Ken_McAlinden Producer
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2001
    Messages:
    6,187
    Likes Received:
    72
    Location:
    Livonia, MI USA
    Real Name:
    Kenneth McAlinden
     
  15. Bill Balcziak

    Bill Balcziak Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 1999
    Messages:
    871
    Likes Received:
    0
     
  16. MartinTeller

    MartinTeller Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2002
    Messages:
    1,721
    Likes Received:
    1
     
  17. Dharmesh C

    Dharmesh C Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2000
    Messages:
    994
    Likes Received:
    0
    Just to reiterate, I only want to view the film as the director intended, if that's full frame, fine (Kubrick for example, I still rather see his full frame pictures matted on DVD).
    I really do hate super35 [​IMG]
     
  18. PerryD

    PerryD Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2000
    Messages:
    737
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well, there is a third version, the open matte 16:9 ratio version that will be shown on High Definition HBO in about 6 months.
     
  19. Damin J Toell

    Damin J Toell Producer

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2001
    Messages:
    3,762
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    Real Name:
    Damin J. Toell
     
  20. Jeff Kleist

    Jeff Kleist Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 1999
    Messages:
    11,267
    Likes Received:
    0
    Because it degrades the theatrical presentation and makes J6P think he has ammo against widescreen
     

Share This Page