Harry Potter and the ---- Stone?

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Patrick Larkin, Jul 12, 2002.

  1. Patrick Larkin

    Patrick Larkin Screenwriter

    Joined:
    May 8, 2001
    Messages:
    1,759
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I finally got around to watching Harry Potter this past week. I was aware that the actual title was Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone and that it was released with that title everywhere but the USA. (The story I heard was that execs thought the US populace was too dumb to know what a philosopher was...)
    Anyway, I expected that in the film, they would refer to it as the "Philosopher's Stone" but that wasn't the case. They used the term "Sorcerer's Stone." I also noticed that it wasn't dubbed, you can clearly see them mouth those words.
    My question is this: did the other copies outside the US have the characters saying "Philosopher's Stone" ??
    If so, did they film two versions of every scene where those words were spoken?
    Weird.
     
  2. BrianB

    BrianB Producer

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2000
    Messages:
    5,205
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
     
  3. Richard Travale

    Richard Travale Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2001
    Messages:
    3,425
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    The Island, Canada
    Real Name:
    Rich Travale
    Patrick, I think that you may have the Canadian version. From what I understand, the book and film was called 'the Philosopher' stone' everywhere except the United States where it was changed to "Sorcerer's Stone' because the publisher felt that a book about a philosopher would not go over well enough in the states. Now whether they felt it was over the heads of Americans can only be answered by Rowling and her publishers.
     
  4. Adam Lenhardt

    Adam Lenhardt Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2001
    Messages:
    18,654
    Likes Received:
    3,047
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Albany, NY
     
  5. Paul W

    Paul W Second Unit

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 1999
    Messages:
    459
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Anyboy check out Barry Trotter and the Unauthorized Parody?
    Curious what you think. I'm guessing it won't be any Bored of the Rings.
     
  6. cafink

    cafink Producer

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 1999
    Messages:
    3,043
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Real Name:
    Carl Fink
     
  7. Shayne Lebrun

    Shayne Lebrun Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 1999
    Messages:
    1,086
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
     
  8. Adam Lenhardt

    Adam Lenhardt Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2001
    Messages:
    18,654
    Likes Received:
    3,047
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Albany, NY
     
  9. cafink

    cafink Producer

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 1999
    Messages:
    3,043
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Real Name:
    Carl Fink
    I see from your sig that you own the "Harry Potter" DVD, Adam. Out of curiosity, do you own the "Philosoper's Stone" version or the "Sorcerer's Stone" version?

    I ordered mine from Canada because I wanted the "Philosopher's Stone" version.
     
  10. Jason_Els

    Jason_Els Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2001
    Messages:
    1,096
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    That is just fabulously insulting. Pity we couldn't dumb down their paychecks (or is that paycheques)?
     
  11. Vickie_M

    Vickie_M Producer

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2001
    Messages:
    3,208
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
     
  12. Mark Turetsky

    Mark Turetsky Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 1998
    Messages:
    832
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Vickie,
    Methinks Mr Larkin was being facetious in his assertion about the relative intelligence of executives. There's no need to insult the education of the American populace at large.

    And isn't the Blarney Stone in the town of Blarney?
     
  13. Patrick Larkin

    Patrick Larkin Screenwriter

    Joined:
    May 8, 2001
    Messages:
    1,759
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Vickie -- Did I miss the part of my post that I stated that a Philosopher used a Stone? I think you are complicating the fact that the word Philosopher was exchanged for Sorcerer. The actual definition of the object has nothing to do with it.

     
  14. Patrick Larkin

    Patrick Larkin Screenwriter

    Joined:
    May 8, 2001
    Messages:
    1,759
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
     
  15. Vickie_M

    Vickie_M Producer

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2001
    Messages:
    3,208
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
     
  16. Scott Weinberg

    Scott Weinberg Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2000
    Messages:
    7,477
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So here's the Million Dollar Question:
    (What IS a Philosopher's Stone?) (and NOT in the context of Rowling's works.)
    I'm an American and I admit to not knowing what it is. I'll leave it to others to decide if that makes me "dumb" or "ignorant". [​IMG]
    This game goes both ways you know; I bet several Europeans have no idea what "Shizzy my nizzy" means. Actually, neither do I, but apparently it's all the rage.
     
  17. Aaron Wisner

    Aaron Wisner Agent

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2002
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
     
  18. Scott Weinberg

    Scott Weinberg Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2000
    Messages:
    7,477
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ahaaaa, so that's what it is? A fictional item?
    So would any one nationality be considered ignorant if they didn't know what a 'Gelatinous Cube' was?
    [​IMG]
     
  19. Mark Evans

    Mark Evans Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2001
    Messages:
    585
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
     
  20. Glenn Overholt

    Glenn Overholt Producer

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 1999
    Messages:
    4,203
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I don't think that is the question now. I think it is: Why did they decide that the whole world knew what it was, except for the U.S.?

    Glenn
     

Share This Page