Hamilton (2020)

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This is just a filming of it as it was performed in the theater. So this is something I don't know if we've seen before quite like this on the big screen.
Well, we have, but not often and not as a wide theatrical release. Fathom Events and similar companies specializing in event releases shown a few professionally-filmed musicals in theaters over the last few years for one or two showings only most times. Billy Elliot, She Loves Me, Miss Saigon, Newsies, An American in Paris, Bandstand, The King and I and Kinky Boots come to mind. They then turn around and get shown on PBS a few months later. The recent London concert version of Les Miserables with Alfie Boe as Valjean and Michael Ball as Javert is the most recent example, as it was shown for two showings only in December.

This is the first time that something like this will get a full wide theatrical release as a "normal movie" with four showings a day for a normal theatrical window.

I don't think this would be eligible for any oscars (or would it?) But who cares.
It might if they want to submit it. It was filmed with the intention of being shown in movie theaters and will be, so it could very well comply with eligibility requirements. George Hearn won an Emmy when he was in the stage taping of Sweeney Todd that aired on PBS. I don't think the Academy has a rule against filmed theatrical shows competing for Oscars because this has never happened before on this scale, so they have never needed to consider a rule for it. But also, I don't think Lin-Manuel Miranda is doing this in order to add more awards to his trophy case. I'm sure he and Disney will have a conversation about whether to submit it for awards consideration, and it will be interesting to see what they decide. But that seems to be beside the point for why he wants this to be released in this way.
 
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$450 would be relatively cheap for this. The show had face value tickets as high as $850 a couple years ago; I shudder to think that those have climbed to today.
When the show played DC two years ago, I paid $100 for 2 tickets - and got them with ease.

I don't much like musicals, but this one intrigued me, so I decided to go. I thought it'd be tough to get tickets, as the Kennedy Center subscriber presale had apparently been a disaster that shut out 100s of fans.

When I signed onto the Kennedy Center site the AM of the general sale, I got put into a queue, and I was something like 48,000th in line - literally.

I went off to work and figured I'd check back later in the day. When I got home, I still wasn't at the front, but I was close.

When I finally got to the front of the line, I assumed there'd be few - if any - tickets actually available.

Nope - I was able to pick and choose whatever seats and shows I wanted, even at the "cheap" price level.

I bought 2 seats without knowing who would go with me - and was afraid I might have to eat the ticket if a friend didn't want to go.

I come from the world of concert tickets, where shows sell out rapidly. The fact there were still so many tickets left like 10 hours after the initial onsale made me think the shows would NEVER sell out!

They did - I think tickets were gone about 14 hours after onsale - and the first friend I asked wanted to go, so it worked out!

But anyone who says getting tickets to "Hamilton" is impossible - at least for the touring version - is wrong! It couldn't have been easier! :)
 

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I seriously doubt a "film" version of Hamilton will affect its Broadway run. The revival of Chicago opened in 1996 and the Oscar winning film version came out in 2002. As of 2/4/20, the show is still running on Broadway having accumulated over 9,650 performances to date with no end in sight.
 
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@Colin Jacobson - on Broadway, those tickets do sell out as if they were big rock concert events. We have joked that it would be cheaper and easier to fly somewhere else to see it. My wife’s best friend wanted to see the show and it was cheaper for her to fly to London, stay at a hotel, and see it there than it was to just buy tickets to the New York version.
 
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$450 would be relatively cheap for this. The show had face value tickets as high as $850 a couple years ago; I shudder to think that those have climbed to today.

I wanted to surprise my wife with another viewing since it’s her favorite show ever, but I simply could not bring myself to pull the ticket on two seats in the very last row which were $200 each plus another $100 in fees and surcharges.
We saw it on Broadway in August 2017. My spouse bought the tickets in November 2016 and she still paid something like $800 USD each (though they were dead centre and three rows above the stage--my spouse is a stage actor herself so she's great at choosing the optimal seats).

I'm 100% in on a filmed version. It can't come soon enough!
 
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@Colin Jacobson - on Broadway, those tickets do sell out as if they were big rock concert events. We have joked that it would be cheaper and easier to fly somewhere else to see it. My wife’s best friend wanted to see the show and it was cheaper for her to fly to London, stay at a hotel, and see it there than it was to just buy tickets to the New York version.
My daughter has seen it twice on Broadway and once in London, and it was cheaper to see it in London.
The second time she saw it on Broadway was the night of the bomb scare with the mob running scared in Times Square, so she calmly collected her belongings and left the theater, walked to the subway and got home (she missed the end of the performance). The orchestra level of the theater was a mob scene with people running in from the street shouting "Bomb! Terrorists!, Etc."., and the audience reacting to FEAR!! Imagine someone yelling FIRE! in a packed theater and you get the idea. It was a disaster area in all theaters in Times Square that evening, and out in the streets as well.
No one was hurt. No bombs. No terrorists. A motorcycle backfired.
Hamilton proceeded after a long pause.
 

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Here's the thing you guy's are not taking into account: ORIGINAL cast. I can't think of another broadway show where the cast has gone on to do so much remarkable work. Miranda himself is an EGOT. Leslie Odom is a star of stage, screen, TV and music. Other cast have gone on to all kinds of media. I got to see it 2 months after the big names left on broadway. It was soooo much different and yet still selling for $1000 a ticket each show. I can't imaagine what it would cost with all the originals back.

And I disagree that this will cause ticket prices to go down. They will go UP after the film comes out. For ALL versions of the road cast and Bway too.
 
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Miranda himself is an EGOT.
Actually, not yet, although I'm sure he'll get there eventually. He is currently missing the Oscar. He was nominated for Best Song for How Far I'll Go from Moana, but lost to City of Stars in the year of La La Land. Depending on whether or not there is a new song in the film of In the Heights, he could win this next year. Or he'll have another shot when the live-action remake of The Little Mermaid is coming out because he is writing lyrics for its new songs.
 
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@Colin Jacobson - on Broadway, those tickets do sell out as if they were big rock concert events. We have joked that it would be cheaper and easier to fly somewhere else to see it. My wife’s best friend wanted to see the show and it was cheaper for her to fly to London, stay at a hotel, and see it there than it was to just buy tickets to the New York version.
Oh, I don't doubt that it's really tough to get the Bway tickets.

But given the hype and all the controversy about KC members who got screwed in the presale, I thought the tix would sell out more quickly than 14 hours!
 

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It will come. They've got two tours running simultaneously, so they're covering a lot of ground, although they also stay a minimum of three weeks per stop so that's different than most ours. It's going to a lot of new places in the 2020-21 touring season. Most of the touring venues which get it announce it a year ahead of time.
 

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Unfortunately, this is no longer a theatrical release, which sucks because I was looking forward to seeing this in a movie theater on a big screen with surround sound.

However, that's because it is being released on Disney+ on July 3 this year. So that part is awesome.

52 days from now.

 

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Unfortunately, this is no longer a theatrical release, which sucks because I was looking forward to seeing this in a movie theater on a big screen with surround sound.

However, that's because it is being released on Disney+ on July 3 this year. So that part is awesome.

52 days from now.

Well, technically, the article does not state that this won't play in theaters at some point. Just that it will stream starting July 4th 2020.

By October 2021 (original date), it may still be put into theaters.
 

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The theaters won't play ball with that. Most theaters won't book Netflix titles that stream simultaneously. There's no way they will play a formerly streaming exclusive 288 days after its streaming debut. And while I would have loved to see it in theaters, that's totally reasonable.

The other question that I have is: will it eventually get a Blu-ray release? If it had been a theatrical release, it likely would have received one before its Disney+ debut. But it's now unclear whether Disney+ exclusives will get home media releases.

I have Disney+ and will watch it there on July 3, and probably several times thereafter. However, I would eventually like to physically own this, so I hope that happens sooner or later.
 
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I have never seen Hamilton in person, my only experience is the cast album. I assume that this will be a heavily censored version of Hamilton because the cast album has f-bombs all over the place and one song mentions a lady spreading her legs. Don't get me wrong, none of this bothers me but, Disney has been censoring PG movies lately on Disney+. They have made it a pretty big point that no "R" rated content would be on the service and Hamilton would definitely be rated "R" for language, unless it is censored.

Will you mind if they clean the lyrics up? Honestly, I don't think I will mind because I could show it to my kids. I think the show has a great message and is a fun way to explore history.
 

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It's not going to be drastically different. There's only a few F bombs in there, including one that the show already self-censors as.a joke. There was a bidding war between several different studios for this and Lin-Manuel Miranda chose to sell it to Disney. He is a smart guy and knows what that will mean. If he is okay removing a few F-bombs, then that's fine as it's his show and it's his choice.
 

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