H/K Logic 7 vs. Dolby Pro Logic II

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  1. Bill Street

    Bill Street Stunt Coordinator

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    I've got the baby H/K (AVR 120) and am very impressed with the sound I get. It contains Logic 7 as well as DPLII. I noticed some people prefer Logic 7 to DPLII.

    Does Logic 7 provide a stereo signal to the surrounds in a 5.1 setup like DPLII? I couldn't really find the specs about Logic 7 on the Harman website. Also, who prefers which format and why?

    Thanks for all the help. This forum rocks!

    Bill Street
     
  2. Paul_Fisher

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    Hey Bill,
    I'm getting AVR120 delivered to my work today as a matter of fact. I also live in Birmingham.

    How do you like you H/K receiver? I can't wait to set mine up today!

    As for your question, I used to have a Marantz 5200 with DPLII and I really liked it. It provided much more channel separation than PL1. But I have yet to listen to H/K's Logic 7, but I will tonight.

    Yes, Logic 7 I believe does the same thing as DPLII.

    I will post my thoughts and let you know.

    ~Paul
     
  3. Bill Street

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    Hey Paul!

    I love my H/K 120! It's a major improvement over the JVC I used to own. I'm really impressed with DPLII, and what little playing around I've done with Logic 7 sounded great, but I was wondering about whether Logic 7 derives a stereo surround signal like PLII.

    I think you're really gonna love your H/K... let me know what you think!

    Bill Street

    (Can't 2nd the War Eagle...) Roll Tide!
     
  4. Doug Brewster

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    In answer to the question:

    It works just like ProLogic II in stereo... only most of us think it sounds better. It is reputed to do a better job of "guessing" where to send individual sounds - meaning it interprets the stereo signal, then more often (than PL II) sends it to the correct speaker in simulating surround sound.
     
  5. Bill Street

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    Thanks Doug! I appreciate the help!
    Bill Street[​IMG]
     
  6. Angelo.M

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    Paul:

    I'd love to hear your thoughts on the H/K versus the Marantz 5200.

    --AM
     
  7. Paul_Fisher

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    Well, I only listened to my H/K a little last night, but from what I can tell, I like the Marantz better.
    First let me give you some background on what happened. I graduated from college in May, bought the Marantz with my graduation money for $400 refurbished from www.ac4l.com. Well, I didn't get a job for about 3 months, so ended up having to sell my Marantz to pay the bills. I was NOT HAPPY having to sell my Marantz at all.
    So I finally got a job two months ago and wanted to get a better receiver than my 3 year old Kenwood. So I bought the H/K refurbished for $200 because I don't have enough money to get the Marantz again.
    As far as sound goes, I like the Marantz sound better, I think it has better highs than the H/K. But rememer, this is only from 1 night of listening to the H/K. This is also the cheapest receiver H/K makes.
    I also put in Gladiator last night to test it with movies, and again, I liked the sound of the Marantz better; more clear, louder, just plain better.
    But comparing the 5200 with the 120 isn't really fair. I would put the 320 vs. 5200.
    But I am happy with the performance of the H/K for the money I paid for it. What else can I expect for $200? Not much...
    When I do get enough money, my next receiver will hopefully be one of the new Marantz models.
     
  8. Steve K.H.

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    Anyway, (back to topic)...

    Taking the 520 in DPLII and then switching to L7 for anyone who's over at my place (even before I went to 7 speakers), is like someone just opened up the sound a couple of notches...

    ...that's opened up, not cranked up. I've yet to have anyone say DPLII sounds the same (nevermind better).
     
  9. Paul_Fisher

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    I would have to agree that Logic 7 sounds much better than PLII. I was listening to music and was switching between PLII and Logic 7 and the Logic 7 sounded much better than the PLII. More full, like the music was surrounding more than the PLII.

    Anyway, thats just my .02

    ~Paul
     
  10. Craig Ball

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    I have a question too, should i be able to use logic 7 when watching movies through my cable box? It's hooked up with a coax cable and i can choose DPL 2, but not L7, I can use L7 for DVD, CD ect.. but not through my cable box, it seems oddd to me why DPL 2 works but not L7 please help.

    Craig
     
  11. Joe Szott

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    I just bought an HK 520 and have been messing around with all the new settings. I would have to say that I prefer Logic 7 Cinema to DPLII Cinema for normal viewing. They both do a good job of extracting a 5.1 signal from a 2 channel source, but Logic 7 seems a little slicker in figuring out what should come from where (especially with the rear speakers.)

    I was watching Akira on cable couple nights ago (2 ch. source) and was switching between DPLII, Logic7, and others. The Logic 7 not only decoded the back surrounds, it actually figured out whether to send it to the right or left rear very well. Not as good as a 5.1 source of course, but Logic 7 did a way better job than any of the others that I could hear.
     
  12. Phil M

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    Just another vote for L7 over DPLII. I'm using a HK 320, and I prefer the L7 for both music & movies.
     
  13. DonJ

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    Double ditto's for Phil remarks. L7 just sounds better to me.
     

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