Gta3 performance-at least I'm not crazy....

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  1. Chris Bardon

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    So I grabbed a framerate monitor (FRAPS) to check out how GTA3 was really doing. Turns out that at 800x600x32 I'm getting somewhere between 50 and 60 fps in the clear, dropping down to a low of about 24 in some really crowded areas. I was starting to worry about this, since my machine is far above the "recommended" spec. Compared results with Jedi Outcast though, and was able to get 70-90 fps at full detail and 1024x768x32, so I'm not completely crazy, and my Radeon 7500 doesn't suck as much as it seemed [​IMG]
    The question is then-what's happening here? Did Rockstar optimize so much for Geforce chips that anything else is left dragging behind, or is there something fundamentally wrong with the ATI cards? Is there a secret "don't suck" option in the registry somewhere?
    Reminds me of when Ultima Ascension came out...
     
  2. BrianB

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    Don't blame Rockstar North, blame Criterion Studios - they're the guys behind the underlying game engine.
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  3. Graeme Clark

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    All ATI cards do not go as well as they could due to drivers.

    Jedi Outcast isn't such a good comparision because it's a Quake 3 engine game which uses OpenGL while GTA3 is a Direct3D engine.

    But I suspect it's more an engine and even game design issue. There's a lot going on in GTA3 with wide open areas and lots to render. I'm sure they could get it to run better though.
     
  4. Nick L

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    try comparing results of GTA3 with that of Unreal Tournament. That should be a better comparison.
     
  5. Kami

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    GTA3 is buggy, expect performance to improve in the next patch. Also try switching around the audio drivers. I switched mine to DirectSound Hardware and had a big boost in FPS.
     
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    As BrianB points out, the Renderware engine is probably making the biggest control over speed here. Its a fine compromise, but it is an engine built to run on all systems and a variety of games, not one specifically written for PC GTA3.

    So, while you might get slightly worse performance out of the game it does free you up to get a lot more done on actual content...
     
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    Oh, and frankly GTA3 kicks Dark Forces 3 around the block in terms of looks, so taking more power is hardly surprising!
     
  8. BrianB

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    It's heavily reliant on streaming too - make sure your HD speed is upto scratch, defragged etc.
     
  9. Chris Bardon

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    I actually saw that suggestion somewhere-to defrag after installing the game... Anything else that might improve HD speed?
     
  10. Graeme Clark

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    My drives are in bad shape in terms of getting the maximum speed. I was wondering about the sound too. Will try to change the driver used.
     
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    It works great on my AMD Athlon 2000+ with GeForce3 Ti200 video [​IMG]
     

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