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bruin

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Which of the two would have more benefits if I only had to choose one to upgrade? Also what are the benefits of each? Hopefully someone can clarify this for me as I'm about to start the project in about a week.
 

AllanRW

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Go for the caps first if you are tight on the coin.
Them later the BH.
The caps are the most important.
Having just built 3 of Dannys designs.I will say the caps are worth every penny.
Just use a insulation that can be changed later.
And the BH is also worth the money as well.
Danny has done a lot of work getting the best products for the best price and I think both should be had if you can afford it at some time.

Al

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Ronnie Ferrell

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For the A/V-1+, I would also go with the caps before the BH-5 IF you can only get one of the options. The A/V-1+ is so well braced already, the BH-5 is not as effective as it would be on a lesser braced cabinet. I am not saying that the BH-5 does not make an improvement, it does. And I think it is still worth the extra money. The caps just have a greater improvement/cost ratio.

Also the BH-5 will be a lot easier to add later on than the caps would be, especially if you liquid nail the x-over to the cabinet like Danny does.



Ronnie
 

Darren_T

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I have 5 AV1+'s and would definately go for the caps. I personally saw no benefit from the BH5. I couldn't tell the difference between two sets of my speakers with or without it.

Darren
 

bruin

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Wow, what fast and very informative responses! Thanks a lot guys! I just left a message on GR's answering machine hopefully they haven't shipped the kits out yet.

Allen, thanks again for that mcm pair (i don't have them yet but when i do i'll let you know how i like them)

On a separate note, does MDF need to be filled with wood filler or is it ready to be painted right after sanding?

I'm planning to have the AV1+'s match my subs which have maple veneer stained in mahogany. As of now, it's really hard to see the maple look under the stain.

I guess I should just try it out on scrap mdf and see what happens huh? But if you guys have an opinion about this please let me know. Thanks
 

Ronnie Ferrell

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I'm planning to have the AV1+'s match my subs which have maple veneer stained in mahogany. As of now, it's really hard to see the maple look under the stain.

I guess I should just try it out on scrap mdf and see what happens huh? But if you guys have an opinion about this please let me know. Thanks
The grain of Maple is very easy to cover up when stained dark. I finally wound up using a combo of NGR dye and Walnut stain to get the dark Mahogany look I wanted on my Maple veneered center channel.

Here is a close-up shot of the grain:


I used Solar-lux Brown Mahogany dye, followed with Minwax oil based Dark Walnut stain. Topped off with 3 coats of Minwax satin wipe-on poly.

If you are thinking of staining raw MDF, I don't know if you will be happy with the result. I did not like the look. It reminded me of cork-board. Like you said, try it on scrap first. You should always test your finish out on scrap before committing to it. I had no less than 20 stained test pieces of veneer before I put anything on my center channel.

Ronnie
 

DerrickN

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Hi Ronnie,
Where did you buy the Solar-lux dye? I can't seem to find them at my local Home Depot or Lowes' store.

Thanks,
Derrick
 

Brian Bunge

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Derrick,

You won't find the Solar-Lux products at your local home improvement stores. I order mine from WoodCraft.
 

Ronnie Ferrell

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DerrickN- Brian is correct, you will not find Behlen products (the maker of Solar-lux) at a generic hardware or giant hardware store. I am lucky and have a local specalty fine woodworking store close by called Colco. Their prices for Solar-Lux is actually cheaper than WoodCraft. Check your local yellow pages to see if you have a woodworking store in your town (not a lumber yard).

The hard thing about mail ordering dyes/stains is you cannot try them out before you buy them. The solar-Lux is anywhere between $8 and $12 a bottle. I took a shelf from my Armoire in to my local store and we tried different combination of the dye to get me in the ballpark of the color I was trying to match. I still wound up buying 3 different bottles of the dye and experimenting at home before deciding on the color. This was my first time to use the dye so I figured I had a learning curve.

Ronnie
 

bruin

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Any comments on ChristopherD's question regarding the benefits of the Sonicap upgrade?
 

bruin

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Hey Danny,

Thanks for that link...it's me James P who ordered the kits a few days ago:)
 

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