GR-Research A/V-2s as starters?

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  1. Tim Holyoke

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    I've been wanting to extend my TV/movie/video game experience to more than just the TV for a long time, but I never wanted to drop the money on something that was either too expensive for me at the time, or just crappy components that wouldn't last a long time.

    DIY speakers have always interested me, but I just never knew enough to follow through on anything. Well, now I have an excellent woodworker/electrician at my disposal, and I'd like to put him to work [​IMG] .

    Would the GR-Research A/V-2s be a good set of DIY speakers to start my HT with? http://www.gr-research.com/performer/av2.htm At $300 for a pair, I could definitely justify it if they were going to be a high quality speaker that will last a long time.

    With something like this, would a subwoofer be real necessary right away? Eventually, it'd be an obvious addition, but for now I'd like to keep it to a pair of front mains and a receiver. What else would you recommend? Thanks a lot for any help.

    Tim
     
  2. Eddie Horton

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    Keep checking back here. There's a guy on this forum named John Garcia who has these speakers and could probably tell you all you want to know about them.
     
  3. John Garcia

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    [​IMG] Did someone mention A/V-2s? The sound they produce is quite amazing for the price. With a -3dB at 55Hz, they definitley don't extend low enough to be used without a sub all the time, but they have pretty respectable bass. I listen to them full range with music and they sometimes surprise me; most of the time I run them with an 80Hz x-over though. You could get away without a sub at first yes.

    The components are definitely not el-cheapo and GR carries replacements if you should have a problem, for a relatively low cost. I had a damaged tweeter on one and was able to get a PAIR of matched tweeters for very little. A buddy has been using a full set of A/V-1s for at least 3+ years and I haven't heard of him having any problems with them. My A/V-1s are about that old too, and they still sound great. I don't think you'll have to worry about the quality of the components.

    NOTE: The A/V-2 is 4 Ohm; plenty of power will be a benefit.
     
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    If you want to go the kit route....I am not sure how much better you can do than the A/V-2 at $300. I demoed a pair in my home....a fine speaker.

    Here are some pics of the pair I had. The cabinets were made by Brian Bunge of www.rutledgeaudiodesign.com

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    My 3 A/V-2s were all made by Brian also. [​IMG] The pair shown on his site are actually the ones I bought from him.

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    Brian made my stands too!
     
  7. John Garcia

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    I don't know what your budget is, but Brian has a pair of complete A/V-2s and matching stands that he is selling at a discounted price right now. You might want to e-mail him and inquire about them.
     
  8. Tim Holyoke

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    Thanks for the input guys.

    As a newb to all of this, what makes 4 ohms require more power? I'm assuming I could find something over at howstuffworks.com? How would the A/V-3s compare? They are only $30 more, but I suppose would require a bit more work. Building stands could end up costing me that $30 difference though, no?

    I want to build my own cabinets (with help from the expert, of course) - how much should I expect to spend over the $300?

    What would be a good receiver to run these through? Again, I'd like something that will last a long time - I don't plan on constantly upgrading [​IMG] .

    Thanks again for the help.

    Tim
     
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    Eddie Horton, Your signature is offensive to any PETA member. Of course, that means I LIKE it ... [​IMG]
     
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    I built my first sub with $20 worth of MDF, a box of wood screws, wood glue, RTV, and $10 of fleck-stone paint. If you aren't going to veneer or do some other fancy finish, the cabinets should be fairly inexpensive.

    I don't plan on upgrading from these speakers for a long time either.

    When resistance is decreased, current flow increases, so the amp is driven harder.
     
  11. Eddie Horton

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    Thanks, Craig. By the way, do you know what PETA stands for? People Eating Tasty Animals. I had a spotted owl for lunch.. it tasted just like chicken. Go figure.
     
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    That is something ... I just had chicken that tastes like Spotted Owl ... What ARE the odds ?
     
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    Nothing to add, just wanted to say I enjoyed the irreverance [​IMG]
     
  15. Tim Holyoke

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    Thanks for all the speaker help [​IMG] . I definitely appreciate the comments though - I farm for a living [​IMG] .

    I'm leaning towards the AV3 kit now though, mainly because of the 4 ohm vs. 8 ohm difference, plus only a $30 price difference. Floorstanding or on a stand, makes no difference to me.

    Any other suggestions?

    Thanks,

    Tim
     
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    I did a comparison of the AV2's and the Onix Ref 1's ($1500) last year and for $300 dollars I think you would be hard pressed to find a better value than the AV2's. You can read my impressions of both speakers here if you like. I ended up choosing the Ref 1's but I was comparing the built price of the AV2's not the kit price.

    Edit: I heard the same pair that Curtis posted pictures of above. He sent them to me after he was done. Thanks again.
     
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    You may want to hold off. Danny is about to introduce the AV-4, which is a 3 way design. Think AV-1 with sidefiring 12" woofer and 12" passive radiator.

    You can see pics of the prototype at

    http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/v...ic.php?t=16933

    Just food for thought.
     
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