Good WWII DVDs for history?

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  1. TyC

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    We are beginning the WWII unit in history class and the teacher said that we would be watching some movies. He announced that we would watch Saving Private Ryan and I was elated. Then he said we would also watch Pearl Harbor. I have nothing against Pearl Harbor, but it is less an entertaining account of history and more "a Japanese attack on an American love triangle." Can you recommend WWII movies on DVD that are interesting and are historically accurate?
     
  2. Richard Kim

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    Patton is a good biographical film about one the important figures in WWII.

    Schindler's List and Grave of the Fireflies are good example of showing how innocent people suffered during the war.
     
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    The first that comes to mind is Band of Brothers. Unfortunately it is not a movie, it is a 10 hour mini series. That may rule it out for your class. Patton would be a good choice I suppose. The best way to go would be to skip Pearl Harbor and Saving Private Ryan and just watch Band of Brothers.

    I have to say though, the idea of Pearl Harbor being screened in a history class is nearly unbelievable. The movie contains many (or maybe a better word would be mostly) factual inaccuracies. Tora Tora Tora would be a better choice for that subject.

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  5. Mike Hutman

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    I don't know how true to life these are.

    When Trumpets Fade
    Enemy at the Gates
    Das Boot
    U-571

    I'm sure they are better them Pearl Harbor.
     
  6. Edwin-S

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    U-571

    I'm sure they are better them Pearl Harbor.
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    Not this one. Its even more factually incorrect than Pearl Harbor.

    STALINGRAD would probably be a good choice.
     
  7. Jeff Kleist

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    Das Boot is based off a true account

    Enemy at the Gates takes AMAZING liberties. Try "Stalingrad" instead

    U-571 is actually WORSE than Pearl Harbor, because at least PH got the nationalities right. Utter Rah-rah tripe having the US take credit for something England did

    Try "Tora Tora Tora". THAT movie goes out of its way for accuracy
     
  8. Steven K

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    The Thin Red Line, the best WWII movie ever made (IMO).
     
  9. Edwin-S

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    It most likely takes dramatic liberties (most movies do), but

    THE GREAT ESCAPE

    might be a good choice. It depicts a true event from WWII.

    I know for sure this one does take liberties, but it is still a good film. A must watch for anyone interested in WWII. And the winner is....

    THE BRIDGE OVER THE RIVER KWAI

    An excellent one to watch as a primer for how not to execute a military plan, is:

    A BRIDGE TOO FAR
     
  10. Edwin-S

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    Damn, just thought of another one

    THE DAM BUSTERS

    Unfortunately, it hasn't been released on DVD yet.
     
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    Thin Red Line...not a good historical War Movie.
    Tora! Tora! Tora! is definately a better choice than Pearl Harbor.
     
  12. David Biggs

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    Certainly "Band of Brothers" although it's length might be a bit daunting. I'll second the "Tora! Tora! Tora!" nomination. How anyone who saw that movie could ever watch "Pearl Harbour" is beyond me.

    Not as historically accurate but "Midway" comes to mind as well as "The Longest Day". One might watch episode 2 of "Band of Brothers" and "Saving Private Ryan" then switch to "The Longest Day" to see how movies have changed in the way they show the conflict.
     
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    I forgot to second Patton, one of my favorite films of all time

    Bridge on the River Kwai is a fantastic movie, however it's no more fact than Johnny Tremain. It's historical fiction
     
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    Bridge on the River Kwai is a fantastic movie, however it's no more fact than Johnny Tremain. It's historical fiction
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    Yeah, but that's the problem with using movies as a source of history. All of them to some degree or another are going to be "historical fiction" because liberties are taken to heighten dramatic tension. The instructor may be using the films as an entertaining way to introduce the subject. He/she might be using the films as jumping off points to contrast what is shown with what is actually known about a particular event.
     
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    Even PATTON took certain liberties.
     
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    My point is that "Kwai" never actually happened. The story takes a historical situation and builds around it

    Patton however is mostly based on fact
     
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    Well then I guess KWAI is a scratch. [​IMG] Although I still think it would be a worthwhile film to show in a history class. As long as it was put into context with the actual events that inspired it. It would make for a good demonstration on how movies can create distortions of actual history.
     
  18. Larry Schneider

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    Tora, Tora, Tora is an accurate depiction of Pearl Harbor, and Patton is also reasonably correct. Saving Private Ryan is a brilliant depiction of a portion of the D-Day assault - at the beginning - then wanders off into fiction. What your teacher should do is show the World at War series of documentaries, and your class might actually learn something.

    Is he the football coach or is it basketball?
     
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    I recommend you check out the movie The Longest Day.
    It is pretty good and a farily accurate depiction of the events leading up to D-Day from the Allied and German perspectives.
     
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    "The Winds of War" and "War and Remembrance" were miniseries that may be on DVD? They told a story weaved within the War's history.
     

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