Mike Broadman
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These are just personal feelings and experience, not a "format war" thing, but, here's my story...
Moving in with the folks for a while means I don't get a surround sound setup. I still use my SACD player (w/ headphones) and am enjoying the SACDs still and still buying more. Sure, I dont' get the surround sound stuff, but that's fine. I buy for the music and enjoy the stereo layers.
DVD-A is more about the surround sound and now that I've been living without it, I find I don't really miss surround sound. My current situation renders DVD-A discs pretty much useless but I've been keeping them for when I do get my own place.
Thing is, when confronted with surround sound, I can't really tell that much of a difference between DVD-A and DTS. I know there is one with DVD-A and DD, though.
This weekend I got a Playstation 2. Except for DVD-A, it has all the same features, or at least the ones I care about, as my Panasonic RP-91. So the only reason I would even still keep the RP-91 is for DVD-A, and it got me thinking about how much I still value the format.
Here's a list of titles I have:
The Band- Music From Big Pink
Billy Cobhamn- Spectrum
Daniel Barenboim- Beethoven symphonies (6 discs)
Miles Davis- Tutu
Deep Purple- Machine Head
Disturbed- Believe
The Doors- LA Woman
Dvorak's 9th Symph, Harnoncourt
ELP- Brain Salad Surgery
Donald Fagen- The Nightfly
Bela Fleck- Bluegrass Sessions
Bach: Organ Spectacular- Koopman
Megadeth- Peace Sells
Natalie Merchant- Tigerlily
Metallica- s/t
Pat Metheny- Imaginary Day
Joni Mitchell- Both Sides Now
Elv1s
Holst: Planets
Queen- A Night at the Opera
Queensryche- Empire
Paul Simon- You're the One
Bach: Organ Works, Stamm
Steely Dan- 2 Against Nature
Steely Dan- Everything Must Go
Stone Temple Pilots- Core
Strauss- Harnoncourt "in Berlin"
Yes- Fragile
Yes- Magnification
Neil Young- Harvest
Frank Zappa- Halloween
AIX:
Beethoven- Symph #6 / Resphigi- Pines of Rome
Peppino D'Agostino- Acoustic Guitar
Latin Jazz Trio
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
Patrice Rushen
Paul Smith Trio
Brahms- piano quintet
Zephyr- Voices Unbound
Tacet:
Chopin- Four Ballads
Chopin- Romantic Piano Trios
Mendelssohn- Octet, quartet
Bach- Motets
Schubert- Trout
Schubert- String Quartet
Mozart: flute quartets
Bach: Brandenburg Concerti
Bach: violin concertos 2
Some of these I don't want to keep anyway. The Back organ discs, for example, I feel have very bland performances and for some reason I just don't like organ music like I used to.
The Queen disc has a DTS track that's as good as if not better than the DVD-A track (and it's my favorite rock DVD-A).
The Paul Simon disc isn't so hot (not my favorite album), I don't think Tigerlily, Harvest and LA Woman benefis much from surround tracks.
The Tacet discs I think only come with DVD-A tracks, so they would be useless without my RP-91. The best of those titles are the Bach, and while the surround sound is awesome, I've definitely heard better performances.
AIX has made the best titles, but those discs have DTS and DD tracks (and video)- they offer so much even without the DVD-A, I don't feel as if I'd be missing much without it. Anyway, as great as most of them are, two of them no longer interest me- the Brahms suffers from a mediocre performance and the Zephyr was mostly gimmick for me (not into vocal music) which has worn out.
Of course there are a few DVD-A discs that mean little without the DVD-A part. Metallica, Steely Dan, Queensryche, Yes- I haven't listened to the DD tracks but I'm sure they're not as good as the DVD-A. To anyone who has heard both, what are the differences in your mind? Is it worth it without the DVD-A part?
If I sell the RP-91 and a good portion of these discs that no longer hold my interest, I'd recoup the money spent on the Playstation, so I've effectively be trading DVD-A for video games at no cost (and maybe even a profit). I think I'm comfortable with that. The lack of both backwards compatability and, more importantly, good titles(!), as well as my declining interest in surround sound are making the format less and less interesting.
(Though oddly enough, I'm dying to hear the Porcupine Tree DVD-A, which I believe has a DTS track. These DTS tracks are so good, they seem to make the DVD-A tracks superfluous.)
Moving in with the folks for a while means I don't get a surround sound setup. I still use my SACD player (w/ headphones) and am enjoying the SACDs still and still buying more. Sure, I dont' get the surround sound stuff, but that's fine. I buy for the music and enjoy the stereo layers.
DVD-A is more about the surround sound and now that I've been living without it, I find I don't really miss surround sound. My current situation renders DVD-A discs pretty much useless but I've been keeping them for when I do get my own place.
Thing is, when confronted with surround sound, I can't really tell that much of a difference between DVD-A and DTS. I know there is one with DVD-A and DD, though.
This weekend I got a Playstation 2. Except for DVD-A, it has all the same features, or at least the ones I care about, as my Panasonic RP-91. So the only reason I would even still keep the RP-91 is for DVD-A, and it got me thinking about how much I still value the format.
Here's a list of titles I have:
The Band- Music From Big Pink
Billy Cobhamn- Spectrum
Daniel Barenboim- Beethoven symphonies (6 discs)
Miles Davis- Tutu
Deep Purple- Machine Head
Disturbed- Believe
The Doors- LA Woman
Dvorak's 9th Symph, Harnoncourt
ELP- Brain Salad Surgery
Donald Fagen- The Nightfly
Bela Fleck- Bluegrass Sessions
Bach: Organ Spectacular- Koopman
Megadeth- Peace Sells
Natalie Merchant- Tigerlily
Metallica- s/t
Pat Metheny- Imaginary Day
Joni Mitchell- Both Sides Now
Elv1s
Holst: Planets
Queen- A Night at the Opera
Queensryche- Empire
Paul Simon- You're the One
Bach: Organ Works, Stamm
Steely Dan- 2 Against Nature
Steely Dan- Everything Must Go
Stone Temple Pilots- Core
Strauss- Harnoncourt "in Berlin"
Yes- Fragile
Yes- Magnification
Neil Young- Harvest
Frank Zappa- Halloween
AIX:
Beethoven- Symph #6 / Resphigi- Pines of Rome
Peppino D'Agostino- Acoustic Guitar
Latin Jazz Trio
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
Patrice Rushen
Paul Smith Trio
Brahms- piano quintet
Zephyr- Voices Unbound
Tacet:
Chopin- Four Ballads
Chopin- Romantic Piano Trios
Mendelssohn- Octet, quartet
Bach- Motets
Schubert- Trout
Schubert- String Quartet
Mozart: flute quartets
Bach: Brandenburg Concerti
Bach: violin concertos 2
Some of these I don't want to keep anyway. The Back organ discs, for example, I feel have very bland performances and for some reason I just don't like organ music like I used to.
The Queen disc has a DTS track that's as good as if not better than the DVD-A track (and it's my favorite rock DVD-A).
The Paul Simon disc isn't so hot (not my favorite album), I don't think Tigerlily, Harvest and LA Woman benefis much from surround tracks.
The Tacet discs I think only come with DVD-A tracks, so they would be useless without my RP-91. The best of those titles are the Bach, and while the surround sound is awesome, I've definitely heard better performances.
AIX has made the best titles, but those discs have DTS and DD tracks (and video)- they offer so much even without the DVD-A, I don't feel as if I'd be missing much without it. Anyway, as great as most of them are, two of them no longer interest me- the Brahms suffers from a mediocre performance and the Zephyr was mostly gimmick for me (not into vocal music) which has worn out.
Of course there are a few DVD-A discs that mean little without the DVD-A part. Metallica, Steely Dan, Queensryche, Yes- I haven't listened to the DD tracks but I'm sure they're not as good as the DVD-A. To anyone who has heard both, what are the differences in your mind? Is it worth it without the DVD-A part?
If I sell the RP-91 and a good portion of these discs that no longer hold my interest, I'd recoup the money spent on the Playstation, so I've effectively be trading DVD-A for video games at no cost (and maybe even a profit). I think I'm comfortable with that. The lack of both backwards compatability and, more importantly, good titles(!), as well as my declining interest in surround sound are making the format less and less interesting.
(Though oddly enough, I'm dying to hear the Porcupine Tree DVD-A, which I believe has a DTS track. These DTS tracks are so good, they seem to make the DVD-A tracks superfluous.)