Gas prices solution?

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  1. DavidAM

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    Edited to possibly stay open.

    Gas imported from the middleast for the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01):

    Shell................205,742,000 barrels
    Chevron/Texaco.......144,332,000 barrels
    Exxon/Mobil.........130,082,000 barrels
    Marathon/Speedway....117,740,000 barrels
    Amoco.................62,231,000 barrels


    Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
    Citgo................0 barrels
    Sunoco............ ..0 barrels
    Conoco............ ..0 barrels
    Sinclair............ 0 barrels
    BP/Phillips......... 0 barrels
    Hess.................0 barrels

    Just some quick facts....purchase your gas wherever you want [​IMG]
     
  2. Malcolm R

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    IBTL!
     
  3. Dheiner

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    "Gas rationing in the 80's"????????

    WTF????????????

    Nope.
     
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    IBTL, as well. [​IMG]
     
  5. RobertR

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    I don't get what you're saying. Is gas refined from non middle eastern oil cheaper? What evidence is there for this?
     
  6. Steven K

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    Hess doesn't need to import crude from the middle east, because their "gasoline" doesn't contain any oil (just water and sand) [​IMG]
     
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    I saw this floating around a few months back. How do you know these figures are correct? Seems like some sort of urban legend to me.

    If you want to spend less money on gasoline either buy a vehicle that gets better MPG or drive less.
     
  9. TerryS

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    Amoco and BP are the same company as well. There is also more to the daily price of gas than what the producer feels like charging any particular day.
     
  10. CharlesD

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    Oil is a commodity, the price is set by world-wide supply and demand. It makes no difference where you buy your gasloine from, if you have oil to sell it will be bought.
     
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    Good old snopes sets the facts straight...

    If people are so concerned about this, they should just use less gasoline. Period.
     
  14. MarkHastings

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    SNOPES:
    "If it weren't for all the gross statistical errors and the naïve grasp of oil industry economics exhibited here, this piece might actually have some validity. "

    [​IMG]


    p.s. I'm still waiting for my check from Bill Gates after sending out that email to 10 of my closest friends. [​IMG]
     
  15. DavidAM

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    Ok, I edited the original post since some posts made it look like it might be locked due to possibly being a political post(thanks to Chris for providing a link to a site that had the same thing I recieved in an email). After the edit, I guess it doesn't make sense with the subject line. Anyway, I just thought it was good info with all the stuff going on in the world today. If you got a choice on where to purchase your gas, I thought people would like to know which gas comes from the middleast and which doesn't...regardless of the price you pay for it. I wasn't trying to say anything about making gas cheaper, although it might have seemed that way. I guess things got out of context after the edit. Buy your gas wherever you want, I was just trying to show if you have the choice, some people may want to not send their money to the middleast with all the things going on in the world today. Like I said, its just some interesting facts, do with it what you will. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers.
     
  16. Ashley Seymour

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    I think its set by OPEC and how much they decide to produce. Demand has nothing to do with it.

    OPEC is a cartel, not a monoply. Demand effects prices, but less than in a purely competitive market. If OPEC priced oil as a monopolist then the price would have been much higher for these past many years. Members in OPEC constantly try to cheat and chisel on their "agreed" level of production.

    Anyway, for all of that money we are sending overseas for oil, it has to find it's way back to this country to purchase other goods that we produce. No oil company or foreign government will allow for very long to have cash to sit in a checking account earning no interest.
     
  17. MarkHastings

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  19. Todd Hochard

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    What people misunderstand about the fundamentals, is that-

    Let's suppose EVERYONE in the US decided to buy their gas from Sunoco. Sunoco doesn't, in fact (check their website), import any Mideast oil. However, Sunoco only supplies about 0.6% of the country's total oil needs. If EVERYONE decided to buy Sunoco, they wouldn't be able to meet demand, and the price would skyrocket.

    So, simply put, on a macro scale, this cannot work. Due to our gluttonous demands for oil, we are chained to the Middle East in that regard. To that I say- either park your 13MPG vehicle, or shut up about it!!!

    Todd
     
  20. Lew Crippen

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    And I’m fairly sure that Citgo is owned by PDVSA (which controls all of the oil companies in Venezuela). Not a lot of oil flowing from that country right now. And they are also a member of OPEC.
     

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