Gary Glitter Nabbed in Vietnam

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  1. Chu Gai

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    on playing around with 10 & 11 yo girls. Read about it here. All I can say is even if he gets the maximum there, it's not enough.
     
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    They need to stop playing his song at all sporting events immediatly so the piece of shit doesn't get any royalties.
     
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    "They?" Who's "they?" Do you run a stadium?

    Anyway, prosecutors were unable to charge Gadd with child rape, which would have carried the death penalty.

    What I can't understand is why various westerners feel it's appropriate to misbehave in southeast asia. Sure, prosecutors are underfunded, and some of them can be bribed, but essentially, you're relying on prosecutorial discretion to save your sorry ass from whipping, long prison terms in dank, fetid conditions, or the hangman's noose.
     
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    Immediately? You do know he's already been tried, convicted & served his time for possession of child pornography in the UK? Amazingly, it seemed to get near zero coverage here in the US & I found it very odd to hear his songs at big sporting events afterwards, where a US singer in a similiar situation would be persona non gratis.
     
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    I had no idea.
     
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    Look what they had to say about his stay in Cambodia.

    I think I'll pen a couple of letters to officials in the NFL and NBA to see if this little perv can have his income cut a bit. I'll post any replies I get.
     
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    That's the sam song they use on the commercial's too right?
     
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    This would of been a great end to the Garry Glitter story. I've been following this as my choice celeb scandla (fuck Tomkat, this is a TRUE celebrity scandal!)

    I believe the following is history:
    Busted in the UK for having kiddie porn on the computer he sent to a shop to repair (described as a hard drive full.) Was also suspect (I don't know if he was charged) of sleeping with the daughter of a woman he lived with. Served 3 years.

    Upon release: he traveled to Cambodia, one of the leading stops for the child sex trade. They kicked him out

    Goes to Vietnam, another destination for people who want to have sex with kids.

    Gary Glitter should get an award (long painful death sounds appropriate to me)for haveing the biggest balls in the world. A completly unrepentant celebrity child molester. no press conferances saying it was a missunderstanding for Mr. Glitter, no way, he just hops on a plain to Asia so he can fuck more kids. Unbelievable!

    Interesting side bar:
    Glitter's last big project before all this came out was playing "Quadrophenia" with The Who. You may recall that Pete Townshend was busted, and proven innocent for: Child Pornography! Coincedence? Hmmm...
     
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    this is a shame. what will happen next? the president takes "E" and sleeps in?

    larry
     
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    I'm editing out my posts in this thread.
    I can't deal with the gleeful abandonment of logic here.
     
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    And the countdown to thread-lock begins after...

    Sincerely,

    John Kilduff...

    10...9...8...
     
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    R.Kelly
     
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    I'm trying to imagine the impact of playing a Gary Glitter song at a UK sports event ...

    He is well into the top ten of reviled people in the UK, or at least in our tabloid press's top ten.
     
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    What was the gut feeling in England about Townsend, andrew? Did they think his explanation was valid or just a convenient, quickly thought out coverup to disguise his true(?) interests?
     
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    Difficult to answer, but here goes. You may recall that a couple of years ago, a large pay website full of child porn was found in the USA along with a list of names of people who had paid to see it. I understand that in the USA the decision was taken only to prosecute the heavy users of the site. In the UK every single user was prosecuted, even if they'd visited the site once. The police action led to the arrest of teachers, at least one judge, police officers, church ministers, etc. So when Pete T was found to be on the list the impact wasn't as great as you might expect, since arguably by this stage the public were already satiated with moral outrage. Certainly he has played concerts since his court case without any particular problems.

    On top of that, at around the same time Jonathan King was prosecuted and imprisoned for the sexual abuse of under-age boys, and I think that this to some extent overshadowed the Townsend case. [In case Jonathan King is unknown to you, in the UK he is a famous pop impressario - e.g. he discovered Genesis - TV presenter and also famous for his rather grandiose opinions].
     
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    There is a fundamental difference between "banning" something and continuing to pay public royalties. No one here has asked the government to come in and prevent all sells of his product, or provide any governmental weight behind stopping distribution. If someone wants to buy the CD, they are free to do so.

    But Gary Glitter being played at a sporting event isn't "Free Speech" it's paid speech - every ticket holder pays for the entertainment value, and in turns, pays royalties for music & characters used, along with athlete salary, stadium upkeep, etc. As a result, the buyer has the right to complain about what they want to hear and what they don't want to hear. The right of the ticket buyer to express displeasure with the product is an important one.. ask any body who watched the Detroit Lions this year.. they expressed their views very well [​IMG]
     
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    Townsend said that he'd been researching material for a book he was writing. Apparently he'd been abused himself as a child. Not sure whether the public really bought his reasoning but it all seems to have died down since, so perhaps they did.
     
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    I'm editing out my posts in this thread.
    I can't deal with the gleeful abandonment of logic here.
     
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    Why do you assume Glitter gets paid when his songs are played at a sporting event? I say he doesn't.

    When he's played on the radio, he gets paid, assuming he is the songwriter. Radio stations have to keep track of the songs they play for this reason.

    However at public events, usually the venue pays an annual fee to ASCAP & BMI which is a blanket license for whatever music they play.

    I know people who run dance venues, who pay these fees, & they told me it's a farce, because nobody asks them what music they play, so there's no way the money can be fairly given to the right composers. The money is probably passed out according to some formula based on sales or radio play. These people play a lot of old swing & jazz, & they're thrilled at knowing the fees they pay for that are going to someone like Britney Spears (or whoever wrote her "music") rather than some old starving jazz musicians.

    Unless someone here works for an arena & can refute this, I'm confident saying Glitter doesn't get paid when his songs are played at a game. I doubt that works differently than the dance situation I described.
     
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    Fair enough, but I still think it's a valid point not to give his material any further play, especially at large well-attended sporting events, where, irony of ironies, there are probably lots of kids in attendance as well.
     

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