Gangs of NY - Major Edge Enhancement (and other issues) (MERGED THREAD)

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  1. Ron Reda

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    When perusing my copy of GONY last night, there seemed to be a significant amount of EE/halos. However, in reading the review at DVD File, they really don't seem to mention this. Now, I haven't fired up the 51" Hitachi in about a week, so it may have just needed to be significantly warmed up, but it is ISF-calibrated and the DVD just didn't look that good. I then checked out the new "Something About Mary" and it looked pretty dang good. So, what gives with GONY?
     
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    Yes, I too noticed a HUGE amount of EE. [​IMG]
     
  3. Ron Reda

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    I'm glad (in a way) that you did too because I thought it was my display!. In fact, I think this is probably one of the poorer looking DVDs I've seen as of late, especially for a new release.
     
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    Yeah, I had to review this title for a website. I viewed it on a 16x9 47" Panny.

    It's frustrating that EE is getting worse these days, not better.
     
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    Well his is terrible news

    I just bought this yesterday but haven't watched it yet. The reviews that I've read were good concerning picture quality. It just goes to show that you really can't go by reviews. I'm sick and tired of reading how a disc is refernce quality and when I watch it, it's full of EE. How can they over look that??

    [​IMG]
     
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    I'm certainly no expert, but I've watched plenty of DVDs on my set and it looks pretty bad.
     
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    I wrote in another thread, called "1960 vs. 2002," that Gangs of New York has excessive edge-enhancement, and I'm not sure why. I assumed that all recent vintage movies would have clarity enough to be transferred without enhancement, but apparently this isn't true. I suppose it's possible that a movie with a lot of dark scenes, filtered scenes, and purposely faded and grainy scenes, might be seen as more needful of enhancement. This seems to be the case with Gangs of New York, compared with, say, About Schmidt, where I don't see any enhancement at all.

    I just watched What's Up, Doc? several times through. There isn't a single artifact that I could see, nor any enhancement, for this older film.
     
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    Amen, David. Studios need to knock it off. I've taken to dropping transfer grades on my reviews substantially for excessive edge enhancement in an effort to encourage them to discontinue this unnecessary practice. People with large screens hate it and people with little screens generally don't care or can't see it anyway.[​IMG]
     
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    Hey Guys, I'm visiting my sis in Boston for the week and I picked this up yesterday. On her 25" interlaced display I noticed the EE from 9 feet away!!! The opening fight scene looks terrible. The halos are huge! This must look dreadful on my 55" Mits. Diamond. It's getting to be quite unacceptable and I fired off a letter to the editor of DVD file stating that the guy who reviewed it for them, (who conveniently doesn't have his equipment list displayed) must have really low-tech equipment or not know what to look for when reviewing a title technically. He states that he noticed no real EE...

    ACK!!!!!

    Bummed, actually.....
     
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    Dave,

    I've learned that unless Peter himself reviews a DVD on dvdfile, that generally the (dvdfile) review isn't reliable in terms of picture/sound quality.

    No offense to those other reviewers on the site who *do* make an effort to objetively review image/sound quality...but practice has proven more often than not that non-Peter reviews cannot be reliably trusted.

    -dave
     
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    There does seem to be a wide range of technical opinions when it comes to dvd reviews these days. One site mentions a disk is "reference quality" and another claims it suffers from serious problems. I just usually try and get an overall opinion from several reviews.




    Dan.B
     
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    Disappointng news about all the EE, I was expecting high video quality considering the film has been split over 2 discs.
     
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    Thanks for the heads-up, guys.

    Thanks to the excessive edge-enhancement, I AIN'T BUYING IT!

    That'll teach them to lean on that damned button.
     
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    A number of other reviews noted haloing as well. Sifting through the search results at DVD Basen, DVD Movie Guide obviously excepted since Colin has already quoted that portion of his review...

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