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Gamecube 5.1

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Jeremy Illingworth, Sep 22, 2001.

  1. Jeremy Illingworth

    Jeremy Illingworth Supporting Actor

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    I figured out how GC will have 5.1 and I don't like it. They're going to use six channel analog outputs. Which sucks because I want to get a DVD audio player which will also require those inputs.
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    I don't think that would be very likely, unless a hybrid digital cable was packed-in with Rogue Leader(the only "5.1" game announced).
    All of the Gamecube games recently released in Japan have support for Dolby Surround. I just recieved my imported Gamecube w/ Luigi's Mansion and Waverace last week, and both games sound downright amazing on my Dolby Pro Logic 2 reciever.
    Most likely, Lucasarts has attained the rights to promote Rogue Squadron 2: Rogue Leader as the first video game to have Dolby Pro Logic 2 support, providing "5.1" surround sound via stereo...
     
  3. Wolf Jenkins

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    The lack of an optical or coaxial out has got to be the strangest decision Nintendo made - not sure why they would do that...
    I agree that this is definitely DPL2; do yoou have a source or link supporting the 6 channel analog outputs?
     
  4. Jeremy Illingworth

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    No link, just speculation. I didn't know anybody here had an import GC. When are you doing a full write up?
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    According to the stats @ nintendo.com the cube will have a digital out.........
     
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    None of the cables currently offer digital audio though. The port is used for SVideo and Component.
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    Having given this some thought, there IS a possible way Nintendo could add Dolby Digital support, but the negatives outweigh the positives....
    Theory 1: GC developers could use software based decoding of DD5.1, and pack-in a hybrid 6-channel digital audio jack that would connect to the GC's Digital AV port.
    NEGATIVES: GC mini DVDs only hold 1.4-1.9 gigs currently. Software decoding would have a major impact on processor power. In game audio-video lag is still a major hurdle. Component-video users are SOL because the component-video cable also connects to the Digital AV out.
    Theory 2: GC developers could include uncompressed DD5.1 audio, and use a hybrid 6-channel digital audio jack to output to a reciever. In-game lag would be non existant.
    NEGATIVES: Lack of storage space on the GC mini DVD format. Non compatibility for component-video users. Not all recievers have 6 channel input.
    Basically, the only way Gamecube will have decent 5.1 is if developers design a game's audio with DPL2 in mind....
     
  8. Morgan Jolley

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    No matter how they do it, they are doing it. I just hope its not some slip of the tongue and its really just surround.
     
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    I think Nintendo is aiming more at the gaming crowd, rather then the Home Theater crowd. Including things like a hybrid 6 channel digital cable just doesn't seem like something they would do.
    I think Nintendo will leave it up to developers to include DPL2 in the games, and worry about a digital audio output for their next system...once more people have a 5.1 setup in their homes.
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    The newest issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly clears this up and confirms our suspicions. It states that Rogue Leader will be the first video game to use "Dolby Pro Logic II 5.1. . . "
    Guess I'll have to spring for that pre/pro now.
    Brandon
     
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    Damn! I really can't justify upgrading my receiver right now.
    DPL2 is going to have to wait. [​IMG]
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  12. Morgan Jolley

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    You don't NEED DPLII to play the game, so don't sweat it. It probably has Dolby Surround anyway, so at least you get that.
     
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    Is DPL II really worth it (in general). I have yet to feel an urge to replace my RX-V2095 (and the SO would kick my butt if I try doing it before next spring) but didn't know if people really thought it was that compelling (it's surely not as big an upgrade as DD vs. DPL was, right?)
     
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    Well EGM was correct. IGN Cube has confirmed Rogue Leader is indeed the first game to run in Dolby Pro Logic II. IGN Cube has posted up their impressions of the games DPL 2 sound, and also an interview with Factor 5 .
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    I don't see your point. Factor 5 made the sound in Rogue Squadron excellent and I can see them doing Rogue Leader even better, especially with DPLII. Considering that they can use Lucas' resources for anything they want, they will not be able to screw this up. People say that the first and second party developers for MS for the XB are being spoiled because they get whatever they want from MS, but Factor 5 is probably even more spoiled because they have the money AND the resources.
    I doubt the 5.1 mix will suck, if thats what you're implying.
     
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