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Game of Thrones Season 8 (2019)

Discussion in 'TV Shows' started by Sam Favate, May 23, 2018.

  1. Message #841 of 930 May 15, 2019 at 11:47 PM
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    The Drifter

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    Re: Dany's "turn", if that's what you want to call it:

    Though this was obviously brutal & unforgiving, I'm 100% fine with this - and though it was jarring & unexpected at first, when going back & re-watching that scene over again - it does make perfect sense within the context of the story & character.

    I have never thought of - or seen - Dany as a "kind & gentle" ruler/leader. Though we've never seen brutality on the level of what she just did in EP05 (prior to this) - it was obvious throughout the series that she was going to take what she wanted & kill anyone who stood in her way - and did so. The fact that she initially had three huge & deadly dragons at her disposal made her extremely powerful, and there was never anyone that was too much of a match for her - with the exception of the White Walkers & Cersei's Scorpian crossbows.
     
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  2. SamT

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    I agree, she was a good person within the GOT universe.

    And also few scenes here and there, doesn't count. Again with the Rey example. In the Rian Johnson movie it was suggested she could go to the Dark Side, she was attracted to. Do you think people will be happy if she turns into the Dark Side at the end of episode 9?
     
  3. TravisR

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    No, fans wouldn't be happy because it wouldn't make sense with what came before as Rey hasn't done anything even remotely on par with the worst things that Dany has done.
     
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  4. Sam Favate

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    If that many people were disappointed with the last episode, I predict epic, Sopranos-finale-level outrage at the GoT finale. It's not going to end the way people want, or expect.

    Also, that petition is absurd. People obviously have no idea how television or the creative arts works.
     
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    I would say that you could change that to "People are absurd."
     
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    That would be strange, but the Star Wars movies aren't filled with hard R-rated sex and violence and don't take place in a morally ambiguous universe.
     
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    I would totally watch that. I'm gonna start a petition!
     
  8. Carlo Medina

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    Han disagrees. :rolling-smiley:

    Also I never liked the Han Shot First meme. It should actually say Han is the only one who shot. Because he was a bad-a$$. But Han Shot First rolls off the tongue easier and fits better on a shirt, I guess.

    And now, back to your regularly scheduled GoT programming...
     
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    This seems like a possible solution

    Han Shot First

     
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    How was she supposed to react? "gee, I feel sad for my jerk brother who treated me like chattel"? She felt satisfied just as Sansa and Arya did when they killed people, yet no one thinks they're evil.
     
  11. Carlo Medina

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    Or Greedo was a Chump :laugh:

    Okay, I'm done. Back to regular business...
     
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    One of the interesting things about the series is that there aren't really any "good guys." There are characters who do morally questionable things, and others who do even worse things.
     
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    Right, killing people is something that isn't foreign to many characters on that show.
     
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    I personally just didn’t sense the “inner giddiness” so to speak that I did when Daenerys is doing her thing or watching people suffer. I’m not saying that taking vengeance on someone who wronged you is horribly bad or that those people are terrible, but I just see something else on top of that with Daenerys. Also Daenerys seems to overreact and go straight to “I’LL FUCKING KILL YOU WITH MY DRAGONS!!!!” The Starks seem to have more of a sense of due process (by GoT standards) when they have to kill. She essentially told Tyrion that she would kill him (no doubt with her Dragon) if he “failed” her. Just because her employee isn’t getting things done when he’s trying like hell, she’s going to kill him.
     
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    To be fair, Daenerys has been talking about destroying King's Landing with her dragons for several episodes now, and Tyrion has repeatedly talked her out of it. Since she also feels betrayed by Tyrion by going to Verys before coming to her -- not to mention that he has failed her at almost every possible opportunity -- his counsel no longer carries any weight with her.
     
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    Yeah, Tyrion and his diplomatic methods don’t necessarily make for a good “hand” for Daenerys and her agenda, but then she can simply not have him be her hand. No need to kill him. She torched the Tarly’s as well, after they had surrendered. Just because they wouldn’t bend the knee to her. Smh.
     
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    Dany is justified in not wanting the information to be told to her family. She knew they’d tell others, and they did.

    Another thing that bothers me about Dany’s slaughter is how long it goes on. It wasn’t a brief lapse of self-control, it went on and on. I actually wondered how long Drogon could keep it up. The slaughter became a backdrop to other scenes.
     
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    I've wondered that several times. It's like they have some type of "eternal flame" mechanism. You'd think they'd run out of "fuel" and have to take a break to generate more at some point.
     
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    Her objective actions prior to this season don't support what you're saying. She killed her enemies. That's SOP in her world. Sansa and Arya did the same thing.
     
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    If you're going to go down the rabbit hole of "dragon metabolism doesn't make sense", you'll be lost. Dragons inherently violate physical laws. They're not supposed to even be able to fly.
     

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