Full bit rate dts

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  1. Rex.G

    Rex.G Stunt Coordinator

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    Does anyone have, or know where to get, a comprehensive list of R1 disks that were released with a full bit rate dts track?
     
  2. Justin Hargis

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    Great list, just printed it for my wish-me-list.
     
  5. Charlie O.

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    What's the difference between full and have bit rate. Does full sound a lot better...to the point most people notice?
     
  6. Rich Malloy

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    Apparently, the R3 (?) version of Zhang Yimou's "HERO" has a full bit-rate DTS track. Some around here (Josh?) consider it to be the reference DTS track. A damn good flick, too. One of the best I've seen in the last two years, in fact.

    (I've got the R0/NTSC Chinese release of "HERO" with the half bit-rate DTS track, and it sounds incredible. I can only imagine how much better the full bit-rate track sounds.)
     
  7. Joe Road

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    I just noticed something on the list.

    12 Monkeys (Universal) 1509kbps !!???

    I've never heard of 1509.

    What is the difference between 1509 and 754?
     
  8. Charlie O.

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    Read the list and at the bottom was the answer to my question

    DTS (Digital Theater Systems) Digital Surround soundtracks on DVD currently use one of two audio bit-rates: 754.75kbps or 1509.5kbps. Both are capable of up to 24-bit resolution, but generally operate at between 18 and 20-bit, allowing a dynamic range of up to ~120dB; considerably higher than that of a normal CD. Most DTS soundtracks include six discrete audio channels (often referred to as '5.1': three front channels, two rear channels and an 'LFE' or bass channel). However, some soundtracks utilise only five audio channels, such as 'Big Trouble in Little China', and the presence of a DTS soundtrack does not guarantee a 5.1-channel presentation.

    1509kbps DTS has a maximum frequency response of 20Hz-24kHz (the human ear is able to detect frequencies between roughly 20Hz and 20kHz). DTS at 754kbps has a maximum frequency response of 20Hz to 19kHz, but frequencies above 15kHz are often rolled off. For a more detailed explanation of DTS's Coherent Acoustics compression system read this article or visit DTS online at www.dtsonline.com
     
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    It is my understanding that 1509kbps (or full bit rate track)has been all but abandoned on R1 releases.
     
  10. Ed St. Clair

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    I would NOT agrue that!
     
  11. Ed St. Clair

    Ed St. Clair Producer

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    In fact, I asked on June 26 of last year here, for 'someone' to show me that DTS Full Bit Rate wasn't done in R1.
    Unfortunately, no one has been able too prove DTS FBR isn't dead in R1.
    When (What) was the last FBR DTS release?
     
  12. Sten F

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    Why not list those who has DTS-ES Matrixed as well? Such as Pirates of the Caribbean & Field of Dreams Aniversary Edition.
     
  13. Rex.G

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    Just by looking at the list, is doesn't seem like we have seen FBR dts in at least 4 or 5 years!!

    bye bye FBR
    r.i.p.
     
  14. Adam Barratt

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    As far as I know, the last 1509kbps DTS soundtrack for a theatrical release (movie) DVD in R1 was Elite's Re-Animator: Millennium Edition in April 2002.

    Adam
     
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    There are some DVD-As that have full bitrate DTS on their DVD audio-track.

    Also, the only place you'll find full bitrate DTS releases in R1 these days is on DVHS D-Theater. Unfortuantely my JVC 30K can't play them.[​IMG]
     
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    The Artisan Director's cut SE of the "Frank Herbert's Dune" miniseries was released a couple of months later, and that's the last R1 full-bitrate DTS DVD I have encountered that was not a music release.

    Regards,
     
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    I was wondering the same thing.

    Also is there anywhere I can see a list of Dolby Surround EX titles, both matrixed & discrete?
     
  18. Steve Tannehill

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    Don't know if it was the last one, but a recent full-bitrate release was Peter Gabriel's Growing Up Live concert DVD, late last year.

    - Steve
     
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    There are no-full bit rate DTS ES tracks. They are all 768. That would jive with the thread title of Full bit rate dts would it not?
     
  20. Sten F

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    So I take Pirates of the Caribbean & Field of Dreams must be 768kpbs, then. That´s what all the reviews says, which is half-bitrate. Whereas, full bitrate is 1509kbps or 1536kbps, right?

    Anyway, I found this nice place: total DVD Online
     

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