Well, these are on ebay with no reserve starting at 10 bucks. I can't link you because of forum rules, but if you are looking for a great deal on surrounds just search for them. I have for sale a pair of Fosgate Audionics SD 180 bipole/dipole surround speakers. These are massive, probably some of the largest surround speakers I've seen and certainly the largest i've owned. at about 30 pounds each and a foot and a half tall these speakers do not "disappear on your wall" or any other marketing crap, these are all about quality sound and really belong in a dedicated room where sound comes before appearance. They look more like something you would find at your local movie theater rather than something for the home market. They are actually rather attractive I think, they have no logos on the front at all which gives them a professional look. These incorporate 2 vifa tweeters and 2 scanspeak woofers per speaker. These are THX certified. The condition is a 7/10 on audiogon's conservative scale. New retail on these was $1800. Asking $500 $350 + shipping. (I will end the auction) I have pictures and will email them to interested parties and eventually post them on the web. see 100% positive feedback on ebay under "Ceruleance"