Fox's evolution of "tv on dvd" to "tv on dvd-mod"

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Just noticed on today's tvshowsondvd article that Fox and Lionsgate has been outsourcing their dvd-mod releases to MovieZyng. Looking through MovieZyng's listings, this is what popped up for Fox's tv on dvd-mod releases (by production year).

1998
Dharma & Greg: The Complete Season 2

2007

Women's Murder Club Season 1

2010

The Good Guys Season 1



2011

The Cleveland Show Season 3
Raising Hope Season 2
Last Man Standing Season 1


2012

Bobs Burgers Season 2
The Glades Season 3
The Killing Season 2
The New Normal: The Complete Series
Louie Season 3
Don’t Trust the B in Apt. 23 The Complete Series
Raising Hope Season 3: The Complete Third Season
American Dad Volume 9
Brickleberry: The Complete First Season
The Glades: The Complete Fourth Season
Last Man Standing Season 2
1600 Penn: The Complete Season 1
The Crazy Ones: The Complete First Season



2013

Bob's Burger's Season 3
The Cleveland Show: The Complete Season Four
Back In The Game Season 1
The Killing: The Complete Third Season
Wilfred Season 3
Brickleberry Season 2
Raising Hope Season 4
Last Man Standing, Season 3





2014

Graceland Season 2
Mind Games: The Complete First Season
Those Who Kill: The Complete First Season
Crisis Season 1
Enlisted: The Complete First Season
Rush Season 1
Friends With Better Lives Season 1
Chozen: The Complete Season 1
Married: The Complete Season 1
You're The Worst: The Complete First Season
Gang Related: The Complete Season 1
Gracepoint: A 10-Part Mystery Event Series
Sirens: The Complete First Season
Legit: The Complete Season 2
Wilfred: The Complete Season 4
Louie: The Complete Season 4
Bob's Burgers: The Complete 4th Season
American Dad Volume 10
Salem Season 1
Weird Loners: The Complete Series
The Comedians: The Complete Series
Cristela: The Complete First Season
Last Man Standing: The Complete Fourth Season
Legends: The Complete Season 1
Witches Of East End: The Complete Season 2
The Killing: The Complete Fourth Season
New Girl: The Complete Fourth Season




2015

Sirens: The Complete Second Season
Married: The Complete Season 2
Man Seeking Woman: The Complete Season 1
American Dad! Volume 11


2016

Brickleberry: The Complete Season 3
Louie: The Complete Season 5
You're The Worst: The Complete Third Season
The Grinder: The Complete First Season
New Girl: The Complete Fifth Season
You're The Worst: The Complete Second Season
Bob's Burgers: The Complete 5th Season
Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll: The Complete First Season
Complications: The Complete Season 1
Tyrant: The Complete Season 2
The Bastard Executioner: The Complete First Season
Graceland: The Complete Season 3
Salem: The Complete Season 2



2017

American Dad! Volume 12
Outcast Season 1
Better Things: The Complete First Season
Tyrant: The Complete Season 3
Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll: The Complete Second Season
Queen Of The South Season 1
It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia: The Complete Season 11
Baskets: The Complete Season One
Man Seeking Woman: The Complete Season 2



2018

Life In Pieces: The Complete Second Season
Last Man On Earth: The Complete Third Season
Fresh Off The Boat: The Complete Third Season
Fresh Off The Boat: The Complete Second Season
Life In Pieces: The Complete First Season
Atlanta: The Complete First Season
Baskets: The Complete Season Two
The Chi: The Complete First Season
Bob's Burgers: The Complete 6th Season
Bob's Burgers: The Complete 7th Season
Bob's Burgers: The Complete 8th Season
Better Things: The Complete 2nd Season
Shots Fired: The Complete Series
It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia: The Complete Season 12
Star: The Complete Second Season
LA To Vegas: The Complete Series
Man Seeking Woman: The Complete Third Season
APB: The Complete Series
You're The Worst Season: The Complete Fourth Season
Empire Season: The Complete Fourth Season
Star: The Complete First Season
Second Chance: The Complete Series
The Exorcist: The Complete Second Season
Rosewood: The Complete Second Season
Rosewood: The Complete First Season
Son Of Zorn: The Complete First Season
Cooper Barrets Guide To Surviving Life Complete Series
Wayward Pines: The Complete Second Season
Pitch: The Complete Series
Exorcist: The Complete First Season
New Girl: The Final Season
Last Man On Earth: The Complete Fourth Season
Last Man Standing: The Complete Sixth Season
Last Man Standing: The Complete Fifth Season
The Mick: The Complete First Season
The Mick: The Complete Second Season
Speechless: The Complete Second Season
Speechless: The Complete First Season
Queen Of The South: The Complete Second
Life In Pieces: The Complete Third Season
Fresh Off The Boat: The Complete Fourth Season
New Girl S6
Snowfall Season 1
Last Man On Earth: The Complete Second Season
American Dad! Volume 13
Legion: The Complete Season 2
Ghosted: The Complete First Season
Trust: The Complete Season One
Baskets: The Complete Season Three
Snowfall: The Complete Second Season
Life In Pieces: The Complete Fourth Season
Star: The Complete Third Season
Bob's Burgers: The Complete 9th Season



2019

You're the Worst: The Complete Fifth Season
Queen Of The South: The Complete Third Season
Speechless: The Complete Third Season
The Gifted: The Complete Season 2
Get Shorty: The Complete Second Season
Mr Inbetween: The Complete First Season
Legion: The Complete Season 3
Baskets: The Complete Season Four
Fosse/Verdon: The Complete First Season
It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia: The Complete Season 13
Fresh Off The Boat: The Complete Fifth Season
The Resident: The Complete Season 2
What We Do In The Shadows?: The Complete First Season
Empire: The Complete Fifth Season
Single Parents: The Complete First Season
 

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In contrast, these are the Fox shows which went dvd-mod in the middle of their runs, by the year of the dvd release before going dvd-mod.

Dharma & Greg - season 1

2011
The Cleveland Show - seasons 1 and 2
Raising Hope - season 1


2012
The Killing - season 1
The Glades - seasons 1 and 2
Louie - seasons 1 and 2
Bob's Burgers - season 1


2013
Wilfred - seasons 1 and 2
American Dad - volumes 1 to 8



2014
Legit - season 1
New Girl - seasons 1 to 3
Graceland - season 1
Witches of East End - season 1


2015
Tyrant - season 1
Last Man on Earth - season 1
Wayward Pines - season 1
Fresh Off The Boat - season 1


2016
It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia - season 10


2017
Empire - seasons 1 to 3

2018
Legion - season 1
The Gifted - season 1
Get Shorty - season 1
The Resident - season 1
 

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- Current Fox (or MGM) shows which are still being released as general dvd releases. Though a few might be wavering, such as Modern Family.

Archer
Handmaid's Tale
Family Guy
9-1-1
This Is Us
American Horror Story

Fargo
Modern Family
Homeland


- Fox (or MGM) shows which completed on dvd during the 2010s, which didn't go dvd-mod.

The Americans
Bones
How I Met Your Mother
The Strain
X-Files
24
Teen Wolf
Sleepy Hollow
Prison Break
Sons of Anarchy
The League
Glee
White Collar
Arrested Development
Burn Notice
Futurama
Lie To Me
 

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Are there still people out there who prefer to watch new(ish) TV programs in standard definition? I guess so.
Unfortunately too many folks are still willing to buy dvd or dvd-mod releases of current tv shows.

Before Fox was gobbled up by Disney, Fox was also famous for discontinuing tv on bluray releases in the middle of a show's then-current run. For example: Bones, The Strain, Glee, Archer, Sleepy Hollow, etc ....
 

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- Current Fox (or MGM) shows which are still being released as general dvd releases. Though a few might be wavering, such as Modern Family.

Archer
Handmaid's Tale
Family Guy
9-1-1
This Is Us
American Horror Story

Fargo
Modern Family
Homeland
This list will shrink when Homeland and Modern Family are ending next year.

For the other shows, the question is whether Disney will actually give a damn about releasing further season sets.
 

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Well, it is the only option
(On a general tangent).

The way I see it, is if dvd is completely unacceptable to a person (for whatever reasons), they have the absolute right to spend their cash on something else that is NOT dvd.

Unless you signed a blood oath where there is an absolute death penalty upon violation, nobody is obligated to buy anything on dvd.

Whether due to stupidity, ignorance, feeble mindedness, apathy, inertia, habit, resignation, etc ... or other irrational (or rational) reasons, there is people willing to buy the dvd versions of current / recent movies and tv shows which were originally done in HD (or higher) resolutions from the start.
 

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The way I see it, the movie companies are just responding to customer demand adjusted for costs / liabilities. They're largely a "symptom" when it comes to dvd still being dominant.

Ultimately the blame for the non-ubiquity of bluray (and 4Kbluray) in the general market, I believe lies with the bluray advertising / propaganda people failing to convince the general public of the virtues of bluray. (ie. Not enough people believed in the propaganda or understood any of it).
 

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The general public must be blind- all you have to do is see the difference for yourself. Even HD streaming looks better now than standard DVD. Meanwhile Blu-Ray players don't even cost a lot more, unless your price limit is $30.
 
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The general public must be blind- all you have to do is see the difference for yourself. Even HD streaming looks better now than standard DVD. Meanwhile Blu-Ray players don't even cost a lot more, unless your price limit is $30.
I suspect the general joe q public largely doesn't give a damn, even if one knows and sees the difference. Unlike the hardcore video and/or nerdy/geeky types where they are more likely to care about the differences.
 

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Back to the original topic.

In terms of recent Fox owned shows on dvd (or bluray), the ones which I suspect are vulnerable to going dvd-mod after season 1 would be stuff like: 9-1-1 and The Orville.

Skimming through the above lists, past Fox shows over the past decade are vulnerable to going dvd-mod after season 1.
 
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Though regardless of whether a show is owned by Fox or not, nowadays I wait several seasons in before I make any purchasing decisions.
 

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Though regardless of whether a show is owned by Fox or not, nowadays I wait several seasons in before I make any purchasing decisions.
... and yes, I understand fully that others and myself pursuing this type of buying strategy for current tv seasons sets, may very well be accelerating the process of tv show season sets going dvd-mod / bluray-mod or outright discontinued. Basically a negative feedback system.
 
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Also this isn't just happening with then-newer shows.

This can also happen for current long running tv shows which had over a dozen seasons released on dvd already. The precedents for this are Grey's Anatomy which discontinued dvds after season 13, and Law & Order: SVU which went dvd-mod for seasons 18 and 19.
 

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The general public must be blind- all you have to do is see the difference for yourself. Even HD streaming looks better now than standard DVD. Meanwhile Blu-Ray players don't even cost a lot more, unless your price limit is $30.
The fact that the general public is completely "blind", is the surest sign that the bluray advertising / propaganda folks completely failed utterly in their jobs.

Without getting heavily into politics, the only way to get the general public to do something after propaganda has failed completely, is to impose it by legislation and law enforcement.
 

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From the same MovieZyng web site, this is what pops up in their listings of CBS owned dvd-mod shows by production year. (Excluding reality shows like Survivor, The Amazing Race, etc ... which were heavily represented as dvd-mod).


1952-1969
The Best of Kids Say the Darndest Things, Vol. 1
The Best of Kids Say the Darndest Things, Vol. 2
The Best of Kids Say the Darndest Things, Vol. 3

1962-1963
My Three Sons Season 3 Vol 1
My Three Sons Season 3 Vol 2


1970
The Young Lawyers - The DVD Edition

1975
When Things Were Rotten
Oddball Couple

1976
Spencer's Pilots

1979-1980
Here's Boomer Season 1

1980-1981
Here's Boomer Season 2

1995-1996
Dave's World Season 3


1996
Moesha Season 1

2001
Big Apple complete series


Becker Season 4 (2001-2002)
Becker, Season 5 (2002-2003)
Becker, Final Season


2005-2006
Out of Practice - The Complete Series


2010
Three Rivers complete series


2015
King & Maxwell complete series
Battle Creek complete series
Jane the Virgin, Season 2


2016
Episodes, Season 5
The Odd Couple, Season 2
Jane the Virgin, Season 3


2017
The Odd Couple, Season 3
The Great Indoors complete series
Jane the Virgin, Season 4
Doubt complete series


2018
I'm Dying Up Here, Season 2 (Showtime)
 

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Though in the case of CBS, they might be willing to go back to pressed dvd discs if they release a complete series set for a show which went dvd-mod. This was done for Becker.

The question is whether CBS/Paramount is interested in releasing complete series sets for shows which went dvd-mod, such as: the Odd Couple reboot, I'm Dying Up Here, Episodes, and Jane The Virgin.
 
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In the case of CBS, it appears they're mostly dumping their less popular one-hit wonders (ie. 1 or 2 seasons) and unsuccessful sitcoms to dvd-mod. (CBS seems to be deficient in creating their own successful sitcom, where they seem to be dependent on Warner).
 

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