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Fox's evolution of "tv on dvd" to "tv on dvd-mod"

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    Just noticed on today's tvshowsondvd article that Fox and Lionsgate has been outsourcing their dvd-mod releases to MovieZyng. Looking through MovieZyng's listings, this is what popped up for Fox's tv on dvd-mod releases (by production year).

    1998
    Dharma & Greg: The Complete Season 2

    2007

    Women's Murder Club Season 1

    2010

    The Good Guys Season 1



    2011

    The Cleveland Show Season 3
    Raising Hope Season 2
    Last Man Standing Season 1


    2012

    Bobs Burgers Season 2
    The Glades Season 3
    The Killing Season 2
    The New Normal: The Complete Series
    Louie Season 3
    Don’t Trust the B in Apt. 23 The Complete Series
    Raising Hope Season 3: The Complete Third Season
    American Dad Volume 9
    Brickleberry: The Complete First Season
    The Glades: The Complete Fourth Season
    Last Man Standing Season 2
    1600 Penn: The Complete Season 1
    The Crazy Ones: The Complete First Season



    2013

    Bob's Burger's Season 3
    The Cleveland Show: The Complete Season Four
    Back In The Game Season 1
    The Killing: The Complete Third Season
    Wilfred Season 3
    Brickleberry Season 2
    Raising Hope Season 4
    Last Man Standing, Season 3





    2014

    Graceland Season 2
    Mind Games: The Complete First Season
    Those Who Kill: The Complete First Season
    Crisis Season 1
    Enlisted: The Complete First Season
    Rush Season 1
    Friends With Better Lives Season 1
    Chozen: The Complete Season 1
    Married: The Complete Season 1
    You're The Worst: The Complete First Season
    Gang Related: The Complete Season 1
    Gracepoint: A 10-Part Mystery Event Series
    Sirens: The Complete First Season
    Legit: The Complete Season 2
    Wilfred: The Complete Season 4
    Louie: The Complete Season 4
    Bob's Burgers: The Complete 4th Season
    American Dad Volume 10
    Salem Season 1
    Weird Loners: The Complete Series
    The Comedians: The Complete Series
    Cristela: The Complete First Season
    Last Man Standing: The Complete Fourth Season
    Legends: The Complete Season 1
    Witches Of East End: The Complete Season 2
    The Killing: The Complete Fourth Season
    New Girl: The Complete Fourth Season




    2015

    Sirens: The Complete Second Season
    Married: The Complete Season 2
    Man Seeking Woman: The Complete Season 1
    American Dad! Volume 11


    2016

    Brickleberry: The Complete Season 3
    Louie: The Complete Season 5
    You're The Worst: The Complete Third Season
    The Grinder: The Complete First Season
    New Girl: The Complete Fifth Season
    You're The Worst: The Complete Second Season
    Bob's Burgers: The Complete 5th Season
    Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll: The Complete First Season
    Complications: The Complete Season 1
    Tyrant: The Complete Season 2
    The Bastard Executioner: The Complete First Season
    Graceland: The Complete Season 3
    Salem: The Complete Season 2



    2017

    American Dad! Volume 12
    Outcast Season 1
    Better Things: The Complete First Season
    Tyrant: The Complete Season 3
    Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll: The Complete Second Season
    Queen Of The South Season 1
    It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia: The Complete Season 11
    Baskets: The Complete Season One
    Man Seeking Woman: The Complete Season 2



    2018

    Life In Pieces: The Complete Second Season
    Last Man On Earth: The Complete Third Season
    Fresh Off The Boat: The Complete Third Season
    Fresh Off The Boat: The Complete Second Season
    Life In Pieces: The Complete First Season
    Atlanta: The Complete First Season
    Baskets: The Complete Season Two
    The Chi: The Complete First Season
    Bob's Burgers: The Complete 6th Season
    Bob's Burgers: The Complete 7th Season
    Bob's Burgers: The Complete 8th Season
    Better Things: The Complete 2nd Season
    Shots Fired: The Complete Series
    It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia: The Complete Season 12
    Star: The Complete Second Season
    LA To Vegas: The Complete Series
    Man Seeking Woman: The Complete Third Season
    APB: The Complete Series
    You're The Worst Season: The Complete Fourth Season
    Empire Season: The Complete Fourth Season
    Star: The Complete First Season
    Second Chance: The Complete Series
    The Exorcist: The Complete Second Season
    Rosewood: The Complete Second Season
    Rosewood: The Complete First Season
    Son Of Zorn: The Complete First Season
    Cooper Barrets Guide To Surviving Life Complete Series
    Wayward Pines: The Complete Second Season
    Pitch: The Complete Series
    Exorcist: The Complete First Season
    New Girl: The Final Season
    Last Man On Earth: The Complete Fourth Season
    Last Man Standing: The Complete Sixth Season
    Last Man Standing: The Complete Fifth Season
    The Mick: The Complete First Season
    The Mick: The Complete Second Season
    Speechless: The Complete Second Season
    Speechless: The Complete First Season
    Queen Of The South: The Complete Second
    Life In Pieces: The Complete Third Season
    Fresh Off The Boat: The Complete Fourth Season
    New Girl S6
    Snowfall Season 1
    Last Man On Earth: The Complete Second Season
    American Dad! Volume 13
    Legion: The Complete Season 2
    Ghosted: The Complete First Season
    Trust: The Complete Season One
    Baskets: The Complete Season Three
    Snowfall: The Complete Second Season
    Life In Pieces: The Complete Fourth Season
    Star: The Complete Third Season
    Bob's Burgers: The Complete 9th Season



    2019

    You're the Worst: The Complete Fifth Season
    Queen Of The South: The Complete Third Season
    Speechless: The Complete Third Season
    The Gifted: The Complete Season 2
    Get Shorty: The Complete Second Season
    Mr Inbetween: The Complete First Season
    Legion: The Complete Season 3
    Baskets: The Complete Season Four
    Fosse/Verdon: The Complete First Season
    It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia: The Complete Season 13
    Fresh Off The Boat: The Complete Fifth Season
    The Resident: The Complete Season 2
    What We Do In The Shadows?: The Complete First Season
    Empire: The Complete Fifth Season
    Single Parents: The Complete First Season
     
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    In contrast, these are the Fox shows which went dvd-mod in the middle of their runs, by the year of the dvd release before going dvd-mod.

    Dharma & Greg - season 1

    2011
    The Cleveland Show - seasons 1 and 2
    Raising Hope - season 1


    2012
    The Killing - season 1
    The Glades - seasons 1 and 2
    Louie - seasons 1 and 2
    Bob's Burgers - season 1


    2013
    Wilfred - seasons 1 and 2
    American Dad - volumes 1 to 8



    2014
    Legit - season 1
    New Girl - seasons 1 to 3
    Graceland - season 1
    Witches of East End - season 1


    2015
    Tyrant - season 1
    Last Man on Earth - season 1
    Wayward Pines - season 1
    Fresh Off The Boat - season 1


    2016
    It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia - season 10


    2017
    Empire - seasons 1 to 3

    2018
    Legion - season 1
    The Gifted - season 1
    Get Shorty - season 1
    The Resident - season 1
     
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    - Current Fox (or MGM) shows which are still being released as general dvd releases. Though a few might be wavering, such as Modern Family.

    Archer
    Handmaid's Tale
    Family Guy
    9-1-1
    This Is Us
    American Horror Story

    Fargo
    Modern Family
    Homeland


    - Fox (or MGM) shows which completed on dvd during the 2010s, which didn't go dvd-mod.

    The Americans
    Bones
    How I Met Your Mother
    The Strain
    X-Files
    24
    Teen Wolf
    Sleepy Hollow
    Prison Break
    Sons of Anarchy
    The League
    Glee
    White Collar
    Arrested Development
    Burn Notice
    Futurama
    Lie To Me
     
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    Are there still people out there who prefer to watch new(ish) TV programs in standard definition? I guess so.
     
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    Unfortunately too many folks are still willing to buy dvd or dvd-mod releases of current tv shows.

    Before Fox was gobbled up by Disney, Fox was also famous for discontinuing tv on bluray releases in the middle of a show's then-current run. For example: Bones, The Strain, Glee, Archer, Sleepy Hollow, etc ....
     
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    This list will shrink when Homeland and Modern Family are ending next year.

    For the other shows, the question is whether Disney will actually give a damn about releasing further season sets.
     
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    Well, it is the only option
     
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    (On a general tangent).

    The way I see it, is if dvd is completely unacceptable to a person (for whatever reasons), they have the absolute right to spend their cash on something else that is NOT dvd.

    Unless you signed a blood oath where there is an absolute death penalty upon violation, nobody is obligated to buy anything on dvd.

    Whether due to stupidity, ignorance, feeble mindedness, apathy, inertia, habit, resignation, etc ... or other irrational (or rational) reasons, there is people willing to buy the dvd versions of current / recent movies and tv shows which were originally done in HD (or higher) resolutions from the start.
     
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    Hardly. Practically all those shows are available for purchase in HD digital download.
     
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    The way I see it, the movie companies are just responding to customer demand adjusted for costs / liabilities. They're largely a "symptom" when it comes to dvd still being dominant.

    Ultimately the blame for the non-ubiquity of bluray (and 4Kbluray) in the general market, I believe lies with the bluray advertising / propaganda people failing to convince the general public of the virtues of bluray. (ie. Not enough people believed in the propaganda or understood any of it).
     
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    The general public must be blind- all you have to do is see the difference for yourself. Even HD streaming looks better now than standard DVD. Meanwhile Blu-Ray players don't even cost a lot more, unless your price limit is $30.
     
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    I suspect the general joe q public largely doesn't give a damn, even if one knows and sees the difference. Unlike the hardcore video and/or nerdy/geeky types where they are more likely to care about the differences.
     
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    Back to the original topic.

    In terms of recent Fox owned shows on dvd (or bluray), the ones which I suspect are vulnerable to going dvd-mod after season 1 would be stuff like: 9-1-1 and The Orville.

    Skimming through the above lists, past Fox shows over the past decade are vulnerable to going dvd-mod after season 1.
     
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    Though regardless of whether a show is owned by Fox or not, nowadays I wait several seasons in before I make any purchasing decisions.
     
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    ... and yes, I understand fully that others and myself pursuing this type of buying strategy for current tv seasons sets, may very well be accelerating the process of tv show season sets going dvd-mod / bluray-mod or outright discontinued. Basically a negative feedback system.
     
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    Also this isn't just happening with then-newer shows.

    This can also happen for current long running tv shows which had over a dozen seasons released on dvd already. The precedents for this are Grey's Anatomy which discontinued dvds after season 13, and Law & Order: SVU which went dvd-mod for seasons 18 and 19.
     
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    The fact that the general public is completely "blind", is the surest sign that the bluray advertising / propaganda folks completely failed utterly in their jobs.

    Without getting heavily into politics, the only way to get the general public to do something after propaganda has failed completely, is to impose it by legislation and law enforcement.
     
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    From the same MovieZyng web site, this is what pops up in their listings of CBS owned dvd-mod shows by production year. (Excluding reality shows like Survivor, The Amazing Race, etc ... which were heavily represented as dvd-mod).


    1952-1969
    The Best of Kids Say the Darndest Things, Vol. 1
    The Best of Kids Say the Darndest Things, Vol. 2
    The Best of Kids Say the Darndest Things, Vol. 3

    1962-1963
    My Three Sons Season 3 Vol 1
    My Three Sons Season 3 Vol 2


    1970
    The Young Lawyers - The DVD Edition

    1975
    When Things Were Rotten
    Oddball Couple

    1976
    Spencer's Pilots

    1979-1980
    Here's Boomer Season 1

    1980-1981
    Here's Boomer Season 2

    1995-1996
    Dave's World Season 3


    1996
    Moesha Season 1

    2001
    Big Apple complete series


    Becker Season 4 (2001-2002)
    Becker, Season 5 (2002-2003)
    Becker, Final Season


    2005-2006
    Out of Practice - The Complete Series


    2010
    Three Rivers complete series


    2015
    King & Maxwell complete series
    Battle Creek complete series
    Jane the Virgin, Season 2


    2016
    Episodes, Season 5
    The Odd Couple, Season 2
    Jane the Virgin, Season 3


    2017
    The Odd Couple, Season 3
    The Great Indoors complete series
    Jane the Virgin, Season 4
    Doubt complete series


    2018
    I'm Dying Up Here, Season 2 (Showtime)
     
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    Though in the case of CBS, they might be willing to go back to pressed dvd discs if they release a complete series set for a show which went dvd-mod. This was done for Becker.

    The question is whether CBS/Paramount is interested in releasing complete series sets for shows which went dvd-mod, such as: the Odd Couple reboot, I'm Dying Up Here, Episodes, and Jane The Virgin.
     
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    In the case of CBS, it appears they're mostly dumping their less popular one-hit wonders (ie. 1 or 2 seasons) and unsuccessful sitcoms to dvd-mod. (CBS seems to be deficient in creating their own successful sitcom, where they seem to be dependent on Warner).
     

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