Joe Wong
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When I went to see The Force Awakens I had a good time. I am not a Star Wars super fan so, again, I did not go in and pick it all apart. I went with some super fans and they had issues with it. Particularly, what happens with Han and that all Luke does is a quick cameo. These things they did not like at all.
What I noticed watching the next two films was it seemed really obvious that they had not treated this project as a three film trilogy and mapped the out the ebb and flow and arc of the whole thing. The second film swerves off in an odd direction and the final film almost seems as if it wants to ignore the second film. I just could not grasp why they took this approach to a big, expensive, important project that, for the company, a lot was riding on. It seemed pretty half assed.
So, by the time I got to the end of the trilogy I felt like there was no satisfying resolve for the three major characters they had return. It was almost as if they really did not want to do much with them and instead the goal was to use the new characters to make more films. Problem with that was after doing three Star Wars films the new characters did not want to make anymore Star Wars films.
I also don't think the new characters are anywhere near as beloved as Han, Luke, and Leia. So, to me, they bungled the films in the writing. I mean unless Harrison Ford demanded to only have to shoot one film or something, that was an absurd way to handle that character. Luke is not even dealt with in the first film and is oddly handled when he does appear. It just seemed like bad writing and poor planning and too much thought that the new characters would take over the show.
Agree with many of your points.
I'm not a super-fan, either. I didn't mind what what they did with Han or Luke in the first one. Especially if the reasons are that Harrison Ford was sick of Star Wars and was coming back out of obligation (or pay check), and that JJ Abrams said that having Luke in most of the first film would have taken attention away from the 3 new characters.
What happened in the 2nd was a series of missed opportunities. You have Luke, the McGuffin of the first film, and the most powerful Jedi now left, and you strand him on an island? I don't mind his character now being withdrawn and angry, but someone like Rey could have turned him back. He should have had much more participation in the conflict. I even jotted down an alternative plot where the bad guys discover Luke's location and there's a massive final battle on the islands and oceans of the planet he's on. Luke may not want to be drawn back in, but he is forced to. And Rey and him could have some great tag-team action scenes, using the full powers of the Force.
And then Jon Boyega's Finn. I found him to be charismatic, fun, and with lots of potential after TFA. And what happens in the 2nd? He goes on some meaningless, boring mission, and his charisma is turned way down.
I could go on and on... but those are some glaring issues I have with the 2nd film.