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Fluance owners: Ever tear them apart?

Discussion in 'Speakers' started by Brett DiMichele, May 28, 2003.

  1. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    I was on eBay last night and I see Fluance is all over the
    place on eBay (So is Pyle, and Dogg Digital etc..) I am not
    in any way lumping Fluance in with those brands.

    I am curious though.. Fluance does sell thier product at a
    very low price point. I am curious about how well the boxes
    are constructed inside, what the back of the drivers look
    like and what the crossover boards look like.

    If anyone cares to tear them apart (If you know what you
    are doing) I would appreciate some pictures!
     
  2. Brian Bunge

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    My first reaction looking at the specs on the website was that they've got to be made of particle board. But then I noticed the site says they're made of MDF. It's obviously not 3/4" so it must be 1/2" MDF. I've never seen a 3/4" MDF tower of this size that only weighed 33.45 lbs. so it must be 1/2" material.
     
  3. Ted_Polzin

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    I looked in mine (sx-htb) the towers. The crossover is a couple of caps and resistors .. the cabinet is MDF 1/2 inch ... drivers standard cheapies and same with tweet. It uses standard wood screwes for the drivers (with a nice black head) and stuffing. It has a few braces inside. I do not have any pics and this is all from memory it has been a few weeks. Not a badly constructed speaker.

    Ted
     
  4. Cam S

    Cam S Screenwriter

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    Hmmm, they sure sound ALOT like the Nuance speakers, and is there any relation with the name? I've seen some "white van" speakers that have names similar to actual speaker makers, and this one is similar.
     
  5. Alan M

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    fluance is in no way ,shape or form,part of ,related to nuance.White van speakers are crap,these are not.
    With that said,have a good day all.
     
  6. Rory Buszka

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    someone could, in theory, make a note of the high-pass frequencies and build a proper crossover with both high-pass and low-pass at the correct frequencies and make those speakers really sing.
     
  7. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Alan,

    No Fluance has no relationship to Fluance that is correct.
    And no one stated that Fluance had any relation to the white
    van scam speakers.

    But this brings up an interesting point though. The White
    Van "scam" speakers are not really a scam per se.. It's the
    sales tactics that are shady. The speakers if purchased for
    the normal price ($150-200 for a pair of Towers) are most
    likely comprable in quality to Fluance believe it or not.
     
  8. Alan M

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    Wow Brett,that really surprises me.After reading so many posts about those guys in the white vans,I look for them everytime I'm in a parking lot.I'm always looking for a good laugh.
    Has anyone ever bought white van speakers and ripped them about to look for serial numbers or anything else,as a lead to find out who manufactures them.I'd be very interested If anyone has a lead on them(my interest is now peeked)
    And thanks again for the correction Brett.
     
  9. JustinG

    JustinG Stunt Coordinator

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    I just received my ES-1s from Fluance.

    I haven't hooked them up yet, but first impressions are:

    1. WHOA these look sweet! They have piano black gloss base and top. The cabinet is forged aluminum, so it's silver metallic. They are sleek, slim and sexy.

    2. Bi-wire binding posts came with no bridges. I am assuming since the posts are mounted on the gloss black base, that bridges would scuff it. (edit: Just got an email back from Fluance. Seems that you need no bridges on these because the crossover automatically detects the presence of biwires. Nice)

    3. With teh grills off, they look even better. The yellow drivers on top stand out. The grill pins are nice and chrome. The drivers even have chrome rims to hold them in. Also, almost all the screws are allen/hex screws. Much better looking than phillips.

    I guess the true test is when i hook them up.
     
  10. Jim_Lindberg

    Jim_Lindberg Auditioning

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    And... have you hooked them up?

    I just can't seem to get over the cost to performance factor.

    The sx-htb specs aren't really eye popping. Sensitivity is somewhat low.

    I am no audiophile, or expert, or anything audio. Just an average joe that wants a good HT experience. I WAS using bose am7's..and those, well weren't too great.

    I always have this " you get what you pay for" in the back of my mind. This is why I can't seem to just pull the trigger on these, and take the chance I will be suprised. Limited budget's S.U.C.K! [​IMG]

    Can anyone else let us know if this is just plain garbage or a good risk? thanx.. j-bo

    Forgot to ask... with the sx-htb on the fence for a HT package... what INDIVIDUAL fluance speakers would be an upgrade from the base package to put together a HT almost exlusively package? The center channel they offer, has better specs than the one included in the sx-htb. anyone?
     
  11. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Justin,

    Email Fluance again and have them explain exactly how you
    can Bi-Wire/Bi-Amp these speakers without having 2 real
    seperate sets of posts.

    My guess is that the Crossover is the same as any other
    Crossover and it's not Bi-Ampable. If it were then there
    would have to be shorting straps between the posts because
    if not, then not all the speakers would play.


    They must just be "Bi-Wire" but not "Bi-Amp" posts. And
    IMHO BiWiring does nothing. (From my experiance).
     
  12. Brian Bunge

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    Brett,

    Maybe the other set of binding posts are around the other side of the rounded back but can't be seen in the pics.

    Justin,

     
  13. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    HTF had an individual review them here.
    For those on a budget or just needing something for the time being, they just might fit the bill as would certain offerings from JBL. Please don't take any offence, but I'd read somewhere that Fluance was shortened from Flatulance [​IMG]
     
  15. Alan M

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    Dont know if I got the gest of the previous posts,but the mains on my sx system do have 4 binding posts(2 pos,2neg) with a gold strap across both sets of binding posts.These straps can be removed for biwiring.
    Hope this helps.
     
  16. JustinG

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    Yes, they do have 2 sets of terminals. I don't think I said they didn't. I just said they didn't have bridges. Fluance's response, was that the crossover picked up the presence of 2 sets of wires (bi-wiring) versus 1 set.

    I did post a review of the ES-1s. Lots of views but only one response. So nyah! [​IMG]

    Let me get the link. It's buried by now.
     
  17. JustinG

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    well actually a couple of more responses in my review.

    Also, I checked the base of the speakers when I got them, and all 4 terminals are wired into the speaker. Course, maybe they are all connected to the same 2 contacts on the Xover, but I doubt that.

    I am not a true audiophile, looking for every little hit or miss. But, I would be able to tell that if they sucked or not. I do want great sound out of my system.

    I do know that I don't miss the bass from my KX12's. Maybe there was never much coming from them, but the sub makes up for any lack of bass drivers the ES-1s have in movies and 2 channel music.

    Maybe instead of second guessing, some of you should give them a chance. For anyone on an HT budget, I think these speakers beat any HTIB from Sony, Onkyo, Kenwood etc. Just look at the numbers. On an HTIB, how much cost is associated with the receiver/dvd combo versus the speakers themselves? I definitely think buying one of Fluance's HTIB sets at $250 is much better than the speakers you get in the HTIBs.

    Do as you wish, but I've yet to hear any real negative reviews from Fluance owners on this board. YMMV
     
  18. JustinG

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    "Forgot to ask... with the sx-htb on the fence for a HT package... what INDIVIDUAL fluance speakers would be an upgrade from the base package to put together a HT almost exlusively package? The center channel they offer, has better specs than the one included in the sx-htb. anyone? "

    Jim,

    If you want to check out the Fluance separates, look at the AV-5's and the separate center channel. Then add the bipolars for surround. That's like $200, $69, $99 respectively. Little under $400. JeremyJP got the AV-5s and center and loves them.

    Brian,

    Why wouldn't it make sense for the crossover to not be able to automatically separate the signals? A simple circuit with logic could detect the presence of the 4 wires. Then, it would send the signals to different sets of filters which lead to the different speakers. Actually, it's a pretty simple circuit design. Just curious as to why it doesn't make sense. [​IMG]
     
  19. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Justin,

    That's not how a Crossover works and it would be pointless
    to design something that complex anyway.

    I am not dissing Fluance in the least. I am just saying
    that the binding posts ( 4 of them) are not needed.. They
    are not Bi-Ampable because if they were the crossover would
    have two descreet sections (High Frequency which would
    cover the mids and tweeters) and (Low Frequency which would
    cover the MidBass Drivers).

    The only reason I can see that Fluance put 4 posts on is
    because Bi-Wiring is "Trendy" and thus having the posts
    makes the speakers seem to be in an upper echelon. The
    truth is that MANY high end speakers don't have 4 posts and
    most people believe Bi-Wiring to be of no benefit. Bi Amplification
    is of course a completely different story.

    Like I said.. Not dissing... Just stating the truth.. They
    look like a very decent set of speakers for the money.
     
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