MiltK
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I can't believe this thread is still going....
Anyway, I'm glad the tone of this thread has mellowed out somewhat. The previous posts by Elbert and Dave M. were the kind of responses I originally intended to provoke as opposed to the knee-jerk reactions that came out earlier. It's very interesting that the majority of the flagship receiver owners here do in fact use external amps to improve their sound, which relates to the original idea of this thread - whether a mid-level receiver like the Sony DA5ES used as a pre/pro with external amplification was a better value than a flagship receiver used on it's own? I am not disagreeing that a flagship receiver + external amplification will be perceived as sounding better nor am I arguing that the added cost of such a combo is worth it to some people - but rather is the added cost of a standalone flagship worth it in most cases when cheaper and possibly better solutions (e.g., mid-level receiver + external amplification) are out there. My ears tell me that there is no noticeable sonic differences (especially on analog bypass mode) based on my limited experiences at home and in-store. If you disagree, that's cool.
Please note that I am not comparing street prices of anything now (for which I have had my hand slapped :frowning but take into consideration that quoting the street prices of "old" flagship receivers like the D-5800 or O-989 is not really fair given that they have drastically come down in price since they first arrived. A better comparison would be something like a D-5803 (just out) vs. a Sony DA5ES (6 months old) both of which have the newer enhancements like DPLII, DTS-ES, etc.
miltk
Anyway, I'm glad the tone of this thread has mellowed out somewhat. The previous posts by Elbert and Dave M. were the kind of responses I originally intended to provoke as opposed to the knee-jerk reactions that came out earlier. It's very interesting that the majority of the flagship receiver owners here do in fact use external amps to improve their sound, which relates to the original idea of this thread - whether a mid-level receiver like the Sony DA5ES used as a pre/pro with external amplification was a better value than a flagship receiver used on it's own? I am not disagreeing that a flagship receiver + external amplification will be perceived as sounding better nor am I arguing that the added cost of such a combo is worth it to some people - but rather is the added cost of a standalone flagship worth it in most cases when cheaper and possibly better solutions (e.g., mid-level receiver + external amplification) are out there. My ears tell me that there is no noticeable sonic differences (especially on analog bypass mode) based on my limited experiences at home and in-store. If you disagree, that's cool.
Please note that I am not comparing street prices of anything now (for which I have had my hand slapped :frowning
but take into consideration that quoting the street prices of "old" flagship receivers like the D-5800 or O-989 is not really fair given that they have drastically come down in price since they first arrived. A better comparison would be something like a D-5803 (just out) vs. a Sony DA5ES (6 months old) both of which have the newer enhancements like DPLII, DTS-ES, etc.miltk
