Fear and loathing in las vegas questions

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  1. BrentJ

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    First of all is this a true story? If so, is Hunter S. Thompson suppose to be raul duke? The other question is Dr. Gonzo really there or is raul duke imagining him? thanks
     
  2. Jack Briggs

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    Are you familiar with the phrase "gonzo journalism"?
     
  3. paul_v

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    I believe it was loosley based on real events (my old roommate read a lot of his works). Hunter S. Thompson is a nut hehe. He once wrote that he has used so many drugs that he considers himself a walking chemistry lab.
     
  4. Lew Crippen

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    Hunter Thompson’s book was based on real events, or at least as real as his mind would have been able to retain.
    No one really knows how real, but the overall consensus at the time was that it was very real. Raoul Duke, is the writer’s characterization of himself. If you are not aware, the Doonesbury character, Uncle Duke is loosely based on Hunter Thompson and his name is obviously taken from this pseudonym.
    A good introduction to Thompson is Hells Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga. This was his first book and chronicles his experiences with the MC. Another favorite of mine is Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail 72. This focuses on the Nixon/McGovern race and especially the Democratic convention. Don’t be put off by the subject matter. This is as over-the-top as the Hell’s Angels.
    Read a couple of these books and you will be able to answer Jack’s question.
     
  5. Rob-Gr

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    Also watch Where The Buffalo Roam with Bill Murray and Peter Boyle for another take on Thompson. Of course Fear and Loathing the book is required reading. Also check out The Rum Diaries, Thompsons first book. Look at the extra features on the dvd too. Gonzo was based on Oscar somethingorother, Hunter's best friend with whom he traveled to Vegas.
     
  6. BrentJ

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    Thanks for the reply's[​IMG]
     
  7. Paul Bartlet

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    Yes, a topic started on Fear and Loathing :b
    For whats left of the man's mind, yes, it supposed to be a based on his true events. Johny Depp spent a few weeks/months with the man before filming started. Hunter shaved Depp's head for him for the role. First day meeting him at his home, they made an explosive together in his kitchen and let it off in his yard. Reading some stuff on this film, people say Depp has him down perferctly in the film. So your getting a very good view of what he's like. First couple of times seeing it, I couldn't get over how well Depp did Gonzo. I'm just as impressed with (or more) Benicio Del Toro. I didn't really know him at the time of viewing.
    It's a twisted humor to the film, but I really like this one. Even though I'm not much of a fan for Comedy.
    Only reason I saw this, is because I own a BlackBird, read this article Song of the Sausage Creature to get alittle more insight into this madmans head [​IMG]
     
  8. Wayne Bundrick

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    Can't stop here... this is bat country.
     
  9. Grant B

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    And dont forget the Ether!

    before the movie came out, hst was signing books at a book store on haight street. when i got there the line was down the block and half way down the side street.
    my wife thought it might get shorter, so we got a bite to eat.
    when we got done, the line had wrapped around the block ...and closing time was near. we found out you could go in the store and 'shop' and avoid the line.
    we could hear screaming and loud bangs from the outside (where Johhn Depp was waiting in the running limo)...
    inside was a long table with many bottles of wild turkey and various substances. hst was 'signing' books by doing a Pete Townsend windmill guitar stroke with a big rubber stamp....knocking bottles and glasses over and sending the crowd into cheers.... 'gifts' would make him mutter, 'need more than a 5th for a real autograph' ....SLAM!!!!!

    In the 80s hst was working as the mitchell bros night man. i found out he made a video only sold at the 'gift shop' . it was the strangest thing....hst using a flame thrower on things...... doing drugs off stippers at the mitchell bros... mostly incoherent occasional expolsions- very very real, i am sure the fbi had it as evidence in his file. i wish i still had the video... it will never come out in dvd, that's for sure.
    hst blures the line between fact and fiction
     
  10. Nathan V

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    I love Gilliam's approach to the material. Endless amounts of satire, detail, and a lot of subtle (and not-so-subtle) humor.

    One of the better anti-drug films, and probably the most watchable criterion title (imo, of course).

    "As your attorney I advise you to rent a very fast car..."
     
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  12. Jack Briggs

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    *ahem*

    Mr. Thompson is many things, but "anti-drug" ain't one of 'em.

    "I don't advocate drugs or alcohol," he once wrote, "but they've always worked for me."

    When I was an editor at the Los Angeles Reader, I interviewed a woman who had just written a very gonzo-style biography of HST. I asked her what her most memorable "Hunter moment" was.

    She told me it was her first night at The Good Doctor's house, when the two dropped a couple of hits each of LSD and proceeded toward his hot tub. As they drank Wild Turkey and the acid kicked in, Mr. Thompson lifted up a sword and carved the author's clothes off. (Sorry, but I can't remember the woman's name, but the gonzo "persona" she assumed in her book—titled Hunter, btw—was named "Letitia Snapp.")

    She was a lot of fun to interview. And I wrote my story in a gonzo style as well. It's one of my favorite personal pieces.
     
  13. Grant B

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    Jack
    It seems to me that HST was in trouble with the law (Oh surprise!) a while ago for a Hot Tub incident. Was she the one that brought charges against him?
    I have a hard time with adults who knowingly put themselves in such situations and then act innocent when they wake up in the morning.
    What do you expect when you are in a hot tub full of blotter with the man who coined Gonzo journalism?
     
  14. Wayne Bundrick

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    From http://www.geocities.com/zardoz_420/HST.html :
    In February 1990, porn film producer Gail Palmer-Slater visits Hunter at Owl Farm. Allegedly, during the course of the night, Hunter's hands find their way to her chest. Later that evening, Palmer-Slater calls a friend in LA and tells her what happened. The friend then calls the Aspen police. The police raid Hunter's house and find cocaine, 39 hits of acid, marijuana, blasting caps and dynamite. Hunter is charged with sexual assault and possession of controlled substances and incendiary devices in Aspen. Eight counts in all. On May 30th the case is dismissed.
     
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  16. Jack Briggs

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    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."

    I love that man's work!
     
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    For the record, Dr. Gonzo is based upon the real-life 60's civil rights lawyer Oscar Zeta Accosta, aka "The Brown Buffalo". The only thing known for sure about Fear and Loathing is that Accosta accompanied Thompson to Vegas for a weekend, the alleged details being documented in the book. Upon the book's release, Accosta actually tried to sue the publishers, claiming he should have received co-author credit. Around 1972 or 73, Accosta traveled to South America on business, where he literally vanished off the face of the planet. While most believe he is now dead, the exact time, place, and cause of his demise is unknown, and probably always will be.
    BTW, I'm frothing at the mouth for the Criterion of this film.[​IMG]
     
  19. Jack Briggs

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    The Good Doctor actually did cover the Mint 400 offroad race. The story about Accosta is true, also.

    Honorable mention in this thread should go to longtime HTF illustrator Ralph Steadman, whose take on reality is not unlike HST's.
     
  20. Paul Bartlet

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    Dunno if any of you happen to watch "Inside the Actors Studio" on Bravo, but this past Sunday was Johny Depp. They touched on F&L briefly.
    Depp did live with him for 2 months in his basement. When it came time to shave Depp's head, Hunter was wearing a Miners Helmet (headlight and all). Wish they had of talked more about F&L, but they cover all/most of an actors credits.
    Also, no one seemed to mention it, and from others I've told about it, didn't seem to pick up on it. Brief mention of Hunter in "Almost Famous", the Rolling Stone guy calls the kid in his hotel room, hears the women in the background and says "hey, we've only got room for one Hunter Thomson here".
    I got a chuckle out of it [​IMG]
     

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