Explain to me the appeal of [email protected]

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  1. Rob Speicher

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    It seems like such a waste of resources. OK, so let's say Berkeley finds whatever it is they're looking for. Then what? They investigate it further. Every one so far has been nothing. But what if it's the real thing? So what. So there's something else out there - conspiracy theorists and X-Files fanatics are vindicated, job well done.

    Another application is for serious computer users and overclockers to benchmark their system and compete against each other to see who can crunch the most numbers. Fine. But use that computing power for something useful - like finding a cure for a disease.

    I just don't get it - so what's the appeal?
     
  2. Chris Tsutsui

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    Some of those programs arn't a waste of resources. They use the unused computing power so as not to tax your system.

    Some people think its fun to have statistics and numbers and rankings. They join teams and winning teams get prizes and such.

    I think it's interesting that an impossible code can be cracked with the use of millions of computers working together as one.

    You may "think" that every does it but its really a small percentage of ppl that do. Personally, I don't see any surface benefits other than keeping the processor warm.

    The appeal is that sense of accomplishment and contribution I suppose. I also doubt a computer would be of any help doing anything other than cracking codes, some contain knowledge but they certainly lack wisdom. Heh, didn't obi wan say something like: "If computers could think then there'd be none of us left."
     
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    Glad this SETI thing came up. I allow use of my PC for SETY...but don't know how to get on the HTF SETI team. What do I do?
     
  6. Dennis Reno

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    Scooter - To join the HTF SETI team click on the link below and follow the instructions in my first post:
    HTF [email protected]
    If you have problems joining, email me or post a message in the SETI thread. BTW, let me be the first to welcome you!
    Rob - very good question. I can only speak for myself (of course) but I run SETI for several reasons. First, I leave my PCs at home and at work on 24/7/365. The fact that I can't be at every machine all of the time means a lot of computing power is wasted. Why not put some of this power to use?
    I've always been interested in what is out "there", not just E.T., but other stars, planets, solar systems, galaxies, etc. With our limited technology today I see no other reasonable way to discover intelligent civilizations other than SETI. As great as the images are we can't use a telescope to try and locate other life! So SETI seems like the best bet.
    As for the consequences of a discovery, I agree 100% with what Ken posted. This discovery, if made, will rank as one of the greatest discoveries in the history of mankind.
     
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    Discovering life out there won't lead to our extinction. Now if the aliens land on the White House lawn and announce to Mr. Bush that they're taking over the planet, THEN I'll worry. But looking for a stray extraterrestrial signal isn't going to bring about the end of the world. In fact, if they're on their way, it might be good to know about a few weeks in advance so we can create a virus that knocks out their shields, oh wait, they did that in Independence Day! [​IMG]
    KJP
     
  9. Dennis Reno

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    Greg,

    Your assuming that if a signal is detected (big assumption by itself):

    1. The species still exists

    2. A signal will be sent from Earth "introducing" us to this species

    3. The species will receive the communication and correctly interpret the communication

    4. The species will be interested in communicating with or meeting humans

    5. The signal detected is from a species that has interstellar travel technology

    These are some major assumptions! Yes, the incredibly remote possibility exists that the Visitors will show up on our doorstep and make us their love-slaves or main entree or introduce disease(s) that will wipe out mankind. It could happen, but its far more likely a big asteroid will obliterate us before then.

    Distributed computing is the perfect expression of a free society. You use your PC(s) to do something of interest to you and I can use mine for my own interests. Maybe your computer will discover the cure to the disease introduced by the E.T. my computer discovered!
     
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    SETI is underfunded, basically all of us out there are helping to increase the data they can crunch.
     
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    Distributed computing is one of the cooler things I've seen in the past 5+ years (and I work in tech.) It's a great way for large scale computational proccessing to get done cheaply and as efficiently as possbile. Building a single or a cluster of machines dedicated to crunching that much data is prohibitively expensive for most, possibly excluding the NSA, the DoD and Bill Gates.

    If there WAS something out there that involved using my spare cycles for curing cancer, I'd do it. But until then, SETI is a good use of cycles...

    FYI - I used to by heavily into Distributed.Net but have tailed off in recent years (after reading that horror story of the guy in Georgia...)
     
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    Isn't there one? I thought I read about some genetic research thing similar to the SETI program...

    Regardless, I don't even care what they're looking for- I think the whole distributed computing concept is absolutely genius! It doesn't tax system resources, as it is a screen saver that only happens when you want it to. Unused technological muscle working together for reasearch: absolutely brilliant.

    -Vince
     
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    So do you guys feel that if they found something from numbers you computed they would tell you? I feel that even if we did find something (or have already) that they wouldnt tell you anyways. Still it cant hurt to help in the cause since your computer isnt doing anything anyways.

    KyleS
     
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    Intel has some distributed computing thingies, including cancer research related ones, protien folding, all sorts of neat stuff.
     
  16. Rob Speicher

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    Denis,

    Given our current technology the idea of interstellar space travel seems far fetched. But like us, the Taino people living in the Caribbean in 1490 didn't envision a vehicle for transporting people across the Atlantic Ocean, or for that matter, guns that could kill a man with a ball of lead from a great distance. Just because it doesn’t seem feasible to us, doesn’t mean it can’t happen.

    It seems to me the whole concept of SETI is to make contact with another species, the first step of which is to intercept radio signals. I for one would rather not have some alien species come calling because we encouraged them.

    Remember, fifty years after they first saw Columbus’ ships, the Taino's numbers had dwindled from at least 300,000 on the island of Hispaniola to just 500. There’s absolutely no reason to believe things would be different for us if we were visited by aliens.

     
  18. Richard_s

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    I use it to stability test my system. If [email protected] is still running when I sit down to use my computer I know it is working perfectly [​IMG]
    Helping others at the same time. Maybe we will find something
     
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    Hmm - will have to look into the Cancer research program...
     
  20. Mike Sogge

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    You know, some of these distributed programs can be run simultaneously. So you can search for ET and the cure for his virus at the same time. What a sweet deal!
     

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