Equipment visible in movie?

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  1. Oswald Pascual

    Oswald Pascual Second Unit

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    O.K. maybe I am wrong, but after watching "Reloaded" it seems to me that there are too many shots that show lighting equipment reflecting from there sunglasses. It's not just slight but you can just about see the entire lamp!
    I also noticed in the freeway scene when Morpheus sticks the sword onto the side of the truck it is toward the top of the truck, but later when he stands on the sword, it is about 6 feet down.


    I also noticed when watching "X2" you could see the camera reflecting off the sliding glass door at Bobby Drakes house.

    Is this stuff simply not caught during the editing of the movie, or better yet during the filming? I have only seen these two movies once and noticed it right away. I am going to go see "Reloaded" again because I liked it and needed some clearing up on questions I had.
     
  2. Jesse Skeen

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    Haven't seen those 2, but Twister had more equipment reflections than I've seen in ANY major film. I don't know what they were thinking when they put that out!
     
  3. John_Berger

    John_Berger Cinematographer

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    Star Trek: The Motion Picture Extended Widescreen Edition (VHS) --

    When Kirk leaves the Enterprise to go after Spock, you very clearly see the scaffolding that would otherwise have been covered by a matte painting taking up the entire right side of the screen.

    The Princess Bride (original VHS release) --

    Boom mikes.

    Video available at http://www.widescreen.org/multimedia.shtml
     
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    Often in Open matte VHS editions you will see Mics that you would have never seen in OAR.

    -vince
     
  5. Michael Reuben

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    Mistakes have been happening for years and will continue to happen. I suspect that, in most case where mistakes survive in the final release, there just wasn't enough time or money to go back and do it again.

    Sometimes it's a deliberate choice. A famous example is The Manchurian Candidate, where Sinatra's long monologue with the deck of cards is entirely out-of-focus. Frankenheimer and his editor decided to use it anyway, because it was by far Sinatra's best take. I'm sure similar compromises are made in the editing room all the time. ("The equipment is visible". "Yeah, but it's the only take where all the actors hit their marks." Or, "Yeah, but it's the only take where the focus was pulled correctly." Or, "Yeah, but so-and-so really nailed it on that take.")

    M.
     
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    During the long pullback when Baron Munchausen is to be beheaded in The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, Gilliam had hoped that all the extras stepping in front of the camera would completely hide the dolly track. In reality, that only worked for about 90% of the frames.

    -Lyle J.P.
     
  7. Oswald Pascual

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    The original Matrix had some reflection problems as well.

    When Morpheus looks up in the "real world" simulation scene and says "Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony" the boom mike is clearly visable in his sunglasses.

    Also when Neo reaches for the door handle to enter the Oracle's house you can clearly see the camera.

    You'd think they would be more careful when filming the sequel(s)
     
  9. Robert Harris

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    In line with Michael Reuben's comments regarding the use of an out of focus take, you'll note that in the final scene, going up the tower stairs at the end of "Vertigo," the long dialogue scene is out of focus.

    Apparently Mr. Stewart's dialogue combined with Ms. Novak's brilliant acting and expressions were so perfect, that this was the take selected for the final cut.

    Shot with the lens virtually wide open, creating an extremely thin negative, the shot had very little available depth of focus.

    So many critics had seen the end of this film on video for years, that when finally re-issued properly exposed a few years ago, some complained that the ending was too dark -- in terms of lighting.

    RAH
     
  10. kevin_asai

    kevin_asai Stunt Coordinator

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    Minority Report: When John Anderton opened the door of the red Lexus car, I could see a cameraman's reflection from the door.
     
  11. Gordon McMurphy

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    Not entirely on-topic, but I LOVE the riot scene in Medium Cool where (who was it again?) says, "Look out Haskell - it's real!" And it was! [​IMG]

    One of the greatest moments in American Cinema, in my opinion.


    Gordy
     

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