Well ... I actually enjoyed the pilot episode quite a bit. It took a while to get used to, because the show 'looks' different than all the previous Star Trek shows.
Te whole
Spoiler:temporal war
Could get to be quite interesting. There is great potential with that story line, so lets hope the writers put it to go use.
I was a little upset that
Spoiler:They used the transporter so early in the series. It felt like they rush through a lot of the technology in this first episode. Let's hope they don't run out of things to talk about.
also
Spoileridn't we learn in some past ST episode or movie that the first encounter with Klingons was with a Federation research team on their home planet? Then the research team got discovered and started the war between the Klingons and the Federation.
I'm definately not one of those huge ST fans that knows everything about the series. This is just one of those 'facts' that seems to have got stuck in my head.
I think the most that was ever said concerning the Klingons was that "a disasterous first contact" led to the war. This doesn't really seem disasterous to me, but then again, Spoiler:we don't know what the old Klingon guy said at the end. [Edited last by Sean Laughter on September 26, 2001 at 09:37 PM]
Do we need spoilers now - it is about 11pm on the east coast so just another couple hours till everyone in the US is done watching...those on the west coast shouldn't be online now anyway, you should be at your tv watching a great start to a new series.
The production values on Enterprise look higher than Voyager. Remember when Voyager began and they were recycling effects footage from Next Generation? Yeck. Here at least they went with what looks like a big budget from the start.
It was a bit disconcerting to see Detective Sykes from Alien Nation as one of the Vulcan Ambassadors. Kept expecting him to whine for Cathy... Always difficult to put a recognizable face into alien makeup, no slight against the actor intended.
All in all I think this was a great start. Though I hope not every episode is dark & scary.
The next episode apparently has to do with Spoiler:people hanging from meat hooks or some variety of them in a derelict ship . Is that too dark and scary??
This series definitely has promise. In my opinion it's already better than Voyager ever was. I'm not certain exactly how much optimism is conveyed by that, though, since I never really cared for Voyager at all. But at least there's hope...
The aforementioned "shower" scene did seem gratuitous and entirely unessential to the plot. But it probably helped to "hook" more viewers on the show .
My only major complaint was the somewhat rushed introduction of all of the various technologies that have become common throughout the previous 4 series. There's no reason I can think of to introduce everything in the first episode; I'd hoped some of that would be spread out through the remainder of the first season, with some backstory to how the technologies were discovered/invented, etc.
For a Star Trek premier... shockingly well acted; performances were crisp with good delivery and follow through. The plot was feasible, sensible and interesting. And the effects were as good as anything we've seen in trek before, but understated and did not stand out unto themselves. The early promise of seeing non-humanoid aliens also good. The entire show is off to an incredible start. When you look off at the first show of TNG, DS9, or VOY, none of them had a premier nearly this good. Period. (though whether or not this lives up to TNG and DS9 in my book is yet to be seen)
That was a good episode and my hopes for the show have just went up (when the shower scene came on ). I'm surprised no one mentioned the James Cromwell cameo as Dr. Zefram Cochrane at the beginning of the show. Now I know where the "Where No Man Has Gone Before" intro comes from.
Great great pilot, and in widescreen
The shower scene was ludicrous, I started making porno music, my friend told me to shut up, then they started rubbing each other, and HE started doing it too
SPOILERS.. naturally.
Any early predictions on the identity of the "future" villian? Curious if they'll make it someone from the "known" Trek universe. Something tells me they haven't even decided who it will be yet.
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I'm ashamed to say, but I didn't even notice it was in widescreen. We'll just chalk it up to my being so used to watching movies in that format. All I know is--to quote Freddie Prinze--"Looookin' good!"
I guess I'm the only one here, but I liked Voyager. Still, it's nice to see things go in a completely new direction. I liked what I saw. Two of my favorite things were pretty simple: the Spock-like monitor T'Pol looks through, and the old-fashioned transporter control, which both harkened back to the original show. I didn't pay attention to the rest of the controls, but does anyone think the alien pod controls scene was sort of a jab at TNG-era touch screen controls?
I thought the characters showed promise, though the guy with the accent (Malcolm Reed, according to startrek.com) didn't make much of an impression. I didn't even catch his name. Still, I'm sure he'll get a lot more screen time in the future.
When I read about this show, they said they envisioned this Enterprise as being akin to a submarine. It was great how they ran with that metaphor Spoiler:by having the Sulibans use the equivalent of depth charges to try to find them/drive them out of the upper atmosphere.
Finally, I thought the mysterious figure sort of sounded and resembled Spoiler:the Vulcan ambassador from the beginning of the episode. I'm probably miles off in my guess, but that's who I immediately thought of.
Well...I gues I was a bit disappointed. I thought this premiere episode was a bit dull compared to the others, however it
certainly has a lot of potential.
Scott Bakula was fine as was the rest of the cast, they just didn't make as instant a good impression as other casts have.
Technically, the show is top rate, I just hink it will take a little getting used to since it looks so different.
Add to that, tonights broadcast on UPN9 in NY on my cable provider was horribly blurry and in mono, so that may have added to my negative
feelings of this show.
I will definitely stick with it of course, as I am sure I will grow to love it....I hope.
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There was very little character or plot build up... they throw them altogether, don't really explain things or characters clearly (a lot of the main white male crew members look very similar to each other except for their accents IMHO) and then BAM! they're on their first mission.
Is it me or is the technology not unlike what they have in the future- just without replicators and the holodeck and can't quite make it to warp 10?? They did indeed rush through technology that would be very new to humans and us if you were to see the franchise in order.
The first Enterprise ship looks better and more high tech than the one to follow with Kirk and Spock!!
Will they degenerate into beehive hair weeves and mini skirts and 60's mullet chops towards the end of this series?: As they eluded to in a "back to the past" DS9 episode about the classic The Trouble with Tribbles, the Klingons started getting rid of their ridges and sharp teeth and every girl in the galaxy had on mini skirts, etc.
Of course we know in how high a regard Bragga and Berman hold the original Star Trek universe of Gene Roddenberry.
Enterprise seemed to be totally erasing the original classic TV series and the universe it set up from existance, as if it never occured. A real shame.
The shower scene
was indeed thrown in to get the male viewers glued to their sets... it worked for me!
Jolene Blalock is one hot, steamy babe!! SCHWING!!
I know exactly who the evil Vulcan is. You could easily tell by the voice.
Bakula seems to be a bit like his character Sam on Quantum Leap with a quicker temper, although not always a bad thing. I kept thinking that Al was going to show up in a beam of light with his hand held Ziggy PalmPilot and say that Sam had just leaped into a new body and he couldn't jump out of it for seven seasons until he could get the stuffy Vulcan science officer to fall for him!
I give the pilot a C+ for plot structure, an A- for TV special effects, an A for widescreen, and an A+ for the T&A.
Dan
P.S. I already miss Dr. "Bones" McCoy (DeForrest Kelly)and "The Doctor" (Robert Picardo) after seeing this new show. They were interesting, quirky, and much more colorful than the new ships' medic.
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Stop HDCP and 5C-- Your rights are at risk! [Edited last by Dan Hitchman on September 27, 2001 at 12:56 AM]
Definitely one of the best first episodes for the follow on Star Trek shows. Scott Bakula is excellent as the Captain and I like how they've brought back the gung ho emotional style of the first show.
But, this whole resentment of the Vulcans for holding back thing is new to me. Was it ever mentioned before in Star Trek folklore? It doesn't ring a bell with me.
And, maybe I'm getting a little hypersensitive but anyone notice the weird coincidence of Suliban and Taliban and when they mentioned a kabal which is like Kabul? Maybe I'm just watching too much news lately.
Patrick
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My first impressions are that the series got off to a good start. There is still plenty of room to explore, in more depth, the ramifications and origins of the various technologies associated with the Trek universe, but I agree that they covered too much territory during this first episode. Perhaps they felt they had to cover all the bases in this episode?
When the new medic was introduced I immediately flashed to Mathesar of the Thermians in Galaxy Quest. That big grin and high pitched voice just made an instant connection in my mind.
Looking forward to next week's episode.
- Walter.
Overall probably the best premiere episode of the Trek sequels.
The plot was OK but the last 1/2 hour didn't work that well IMHO.
Like others I felt too much technology was covered off.
Cast seems likeable enough and future episodes will surely expand on each of them.
Now this may be nitpicking but I have 2 major bones of contention under the Continuity Umbrella.
First - the bridge viewscreen. It was stated pretty clearly in TOS episodes that ship-to-ship visual communication was a recent development. Yet here we have an almost century earlier ship with a very similar viewscreen to the TOS Enterprise. While all visuals shown on it were exterior shots it'll be interesting to see if they do in fact provide face-to-face shots in later episodes.
Secondly, and more importantly - Romulans. In the TOS episode it was detailed explicitly that Humans and Romulans had engaged in an extensive war 80 years before Kirk and Crew. Given that Enterprise is set 90 years before TOS and the Human/Roumlan conflict lasted for a 100 years - or some such length, can't remember off the top of my head - then Enterprise chronology represents a major inconsistency.
Also until the Balance of Terror episode no Human had seen a Romulan face-to-face. Wonder how Berman and company are going to resolve these fact? Or are they just going to ignore it.
Hey my 500th post! [Edited last by Lou Sytsma on September 27, 2001 at 07:50 AM]
My 2 cents:
I never liked the idea of this show as I felt it already goes against whats commonly known in Trek history- being that the first Capt was Robert April. I missed the very beginning so Im not sure what year the pilot took place, but if I remember correctly April launched the Enterprise in 2245(I think!)
The Intro is absolutely horrible-I like the older space footage, but that song
Scott Bakula was prety good, but the cast didnt really strike me interesting with the exception of the Capt, Doctor and Vulcan T'Pau
....speaking of which...Damn! I wanna move to Vulcan.
The FX were really great though.
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They will always have problems with the chronology. After all, in the original trek, the earth was destroyed in biogenic wars that created Kahn 5 years ago.
It will be interesting to see how they do things, but it's a catch-22 in some ways for any trek show.
'Enterprise' is apparently shot in HD, but I wish my UPN was doing a digital broadcast (not until late 2002). This show would rock in HDTV. I'm already looking forward to it on DVD (probably a ways off) in anamorphic format.