Energy Veritas

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  1. BrianChim

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    I'm strongly considering purchasing Veritas 2.3 fronts, 2.0 center, and 2 sets of 2.0 rears for a dedicated HT room (no music). I will probably match this with dual SVS-ultra subs. Any opinions on these speakers for home theater use? Any comparisons to B&W cdm9nt or n804s? Any other must comparisons out there?

    Thanks for the info...
     
  2. John Dunlap

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    Brian,

    I'd love to give an opinion of the Veritas, but there are NO dealers anywhere near me that carry them!!! I just got a pair of Connoisseur C-9's which have the same tweeters as the previous generation Veritas. The C-9's are incredible and I would say that they are on par with other speakers in that price range-Paradigm Monitor 11, Paradigm Ref. Studio 60, B&W DM603, Boston VR965, etc.

    For what it's worth Home Theater Magazine reviewed the new Veritas line recently and gave it a great review.
     
  3. Michael Mathius

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    Brian;
    Also checkout Absolute Sound current issue for a review on the 2.3's.
    TH mag review.
    I have the cherry 2.4's. 2.0C. 2.0R and Exl 12 sub with a Denon 3802. The sound quality for both music and movies is absolutely fantastic [​IMG].
    Even at very low volume the sound quality is still very clear and distinct. I find myself listening to a whole lot more music since I upgraded to those speakers.
    I would highly recommend the veritas. I don't think you can go wrong with them.
    My neihgbor liked my system so much he just ordered the very same setup. He should be getting them any day now.
    MichaelTH mag review.
     
  4. David Barteaux

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    I didn't like the 2.0C center speaker when I had them home. Seemed too boxy/chesty sound with vocals. One of the magazine reviews, can't remember which, also noted this about the center. This center does not use the 2" aluminum mid as does the rest of the lineup. I did like the bookshelf 2.2's for music...I think you can do better for the same money if you were looking for a dedicated HT setup.
     
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    The center channel is terrible! Why Energy didn't design a three way center with the 1" tweeter, 2" midrange, and dual 6.5" woofers, I'll never know. Other than the center, the other Veritas speakers are okay, although nothing compared to the previous generation, but I still think one would be better off with Dynaudio, Vienna Acoustics, Revel, B&W, NHT, or PSB.
     
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    Wow,

    I have not heard so many digs on Energy Veritas stuff before. I guess everyone has different taste when it comes to how speakers sound! I have the Veritas 2.0 Center and I love the sound of it. I guess that is why you really need to listen to equipment yourself and make your own judgements.

    I would agree that the current Veritas line does not compare to the prior Veritas line, but the new line is HALF the cost of the old line!

    Jeff Aguilar
     
  7. Mark Amayao

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    I work for the goodguys ... the veritas line is amazing .... in the hometheater mag review they used 2 s10.2's which would probably eliminate standing waves but still not in the same league as the veritas ..... one thing I have to agree on is energy's decision in leaving out the "convergent source tweeter/midrange" from the center channel .... when they were reviewed in stereophile
    they got very good ratings ... reviewer was dismayed
    to find that the convergent driver was left out of the center.

    use the 2.2 bookshelf ... lol ...... but hey at the quarterly training when they introduced the new c-series of which i am a proud new owner of (c5's c3's c1's)
    they stated that later on or actually soon the .........
    NEW CENTER WITH CONVERGENT TWEETER/MIDRANGE will arrive.
     
  8. Larry Becker

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    As a recent Veritas purchaser (2.3's, 2.0C, 2.0R's), I need to jump in with a recommendation for them. I read all the reviews AFTER I purchased them. I just liked them the best of what I'd heard. I haven't had any concerns about the center channel, but my mains are only about 7' apart so my sound stage is fairly tight. Maybe if they were further apart I would notice some of the concerns when you move to the side.
    The only issue I've had with the center channel is I had to return the first one because its shielding magnet had come loose in shipping (I'm told -- I heard a "clunk" when I turned it over to put the little rubber feet on. "Clunks are never good). It distorted my 32" Sony pretty badly (had to have it degaussed). The replacement 2.0C is better, but I have it elevated 6" above the tube and all is fine.
    I have mine matched with an Energy Microstar 12.1 sub (1500 frightening watts, but discontinued I guess -- not sure why) and am very pleased with the sound.
    BTW, got a GREAT deal on them as "open box" specials at my local Good Guys. I was able to get far better speakers than I could actually afford, and am set for quite some time.
    The reviews the Veritas line is getting are amazing. In the latest "the absolute sound" magazine the 2.3's are given a really nice review. I love it when reviewers confirm my good taste!
    Larry
     
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    I like the highs to be on the "realistic" side for home theater. That way during gunfire scenes and glass crashing the highs are capable of a harshness to my ears to produce realism.

    The Energy's tweeter sounds real smooth and subtle to me. I love how the veritas and new Cons sound for music but I like a little harshness with my home theater. Also, I found that the highs from DVDs are usually not as bright as they are on CDs.
     
  10. BrianChim

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    Seems like there are varying opinions on these speakers. Anyone else have any comments or suggestions for alternatives. Is center channel really that bad?
     
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    Just don't believe everything you read in a magazine. Let you ears and your room acoustics determine which speaker is best for you. Try many different speakes in your room. That is the only way to know for sure.
     
  12. Larry Becker

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    Brian,
    I've not heard ANY problems or issues with the center channel. I re-read the Home Theater review of it a few times to figure out what his concern was, and I'm afraid it's lost on me. If you move around off-axis the sound seems to change a bit? I don't do alot of that when I'm watching a movie.
    The 2.0C is ALREADY pretty big. I wouldn't want one much bigger, and adding more drivers -- essentially making it a horizontal 2.2 (or even 2.3) would be a bit much for my setup. However, the B&W Nautilus line offers two center channel options that essentially do just that. Perhaps Energy will come out with an even larger Veritas center, maybe a 2.2C(?) that would address the concerns that some have.
    I looked at the Nautilus line as well and would recommend them. The 804's and 805's might be in a similar price point as the Veritas 2.3's and 2.2's. The Nautilus line is a little brighter to me, where the Veritas is smoother, more balanced. It's surprising to me because looking at the f/r graphs of the 2.0C, 2.0R, 2.4 and 2.3's, they extend out past 20k. They don't leave anything out.
    Larry
    Edit: ALSO, $750 is a great price-point for a speaker in the series. I believe the Nautilus centers go for $1,000 and $2,000. People who have the bigger one (essentially an 804 on its side, I'm told) absolutely love it. It's HUGE, and more money than many would want to spend on such a thing. BUT, if you're putting together a Nautilus set of 802's or 803's, $2k for a center is about right!
     
  13. BrianChim

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    Thanks for the info.
     
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    Mark, I'm probably going to buy the C-1s fairly soon... do you know if Good Guys is planning on a 4th of July sale?
     
  15. BrianChim

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    Any other comments?
     
  16. Mark Amayao

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    More then likely it may be some sort of financing promotion .... Im almost certain something may come up 4th of july they usually drop the ball right in the morning meeting .... keep you posted.
     
  17. Michael Mathius

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    I would like to find out what equipment is your veritas hooked up to?
     
  18. Larry Becker

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    Michael,
    I'm using a Pioneer Elite 49TX receiver, a JVC FA95GD DVD-Audio changer, and an older Sony 32" XBR S-video direct view tv, all switched through the 49tx. Also an Energy Microstar 12.1 sub. I'm very pleased with the setup.

    Larry
     
  19. Matt Broeska

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    you might also consider looking at monitor audio's gold reference line. i believe they fall in the same price point and, having heard both, i prefer the ma's. in my opinion, i found the veritas to be a little harsh to my ears whereas the ma's.... ummm... weren't. don't know how else to put it.
     

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