Enemy at the Gates ?

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  1. Nick Sievers

    Nick Sievers Producer

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    I'm looking at buying this film, should it be the R1 copy or the local R4 copy with DTS? I'm usually a R1 Exclusive person but the inclusion of DTS is enticing.
     
  2. Julian Lalor

    Julian Lalor Supporting Actor

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    The R2 is better. It has the same DTS track, which is better than the DD track, an audio commentary and three quite in depth documentaries.
     
  3. Matt-Brooks

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    I'm looking at selling my r1 and getting the R4 because of the DTS track.
     
  4. Brett C

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    I'd advise getting the r2 version as well as its DTS track is full bitrate and the r4 is at 754...
     
  5. rutger_s

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    R2 France is a two-disc set.
     
  6. Hendrik

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    "I'd advise getting the r2 version as well as its DTS track is full bitrate and the r4 is at 754..."
    ...ahh... which "r2 version" ?
    ...know that the two-disc French release does not have a "full bitrate" dts soundtrack, as will become immediately obvious when you click here...
    . . . [​IMG] . . .
     
  7. Roland Wandinger

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    You should definitely get the french R2 release.
     
  8. Nick Sievers

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    Roland,
    Would you be able to recommend some French R2 sites I could look into ordering from?
     
  9. Roland Wandinger

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  10. DeanWalsh

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    The English r2 version is the one with the full-bitrate dts track.
     
  11. Brett C

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    As Dean mentioned the UK disc is the one with the Fullbitrate DTS track and the disc also features an audio commentary...
     
  12. rutger_s

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    The UK disc is edited for content.

    The French R2 release...

    Disc One: Director's Cut
    - 16:9 Widescreen
    - dts English surround
    - dts French surround
    - Dolby Digital English 5.1 surround
    - Dolby Digital French 5.1 surround
    - Audio Commentary

    The second DVD is a supplemental disc with the documentary from the R1 release, interview featurette from the R1 release, multi-angle interactive featurette, deleted scenes, documentary on actual battle of Stalingrad, storyboards, and theatrical trailers.
     
  13. Brett C

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    Correction the UK disc isn't edited at all! I own both the UK r2 disc and The r1 and can confirm that they are identical...
     
  14. Julian Lalor

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    Unless the distributor cut the movie before lodging it for classification, it has not been cut. The BBFC's website confirms this. Of course, it does have the 4% PAL speed up, which often leads people to believe something has gone missing.
     
  15. Malcolm Cleugh

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    Also the UK R2 from Pathe allows you a form of branching to watch the deleted scenes in situ as you watch the film.

    The only thing I did notice as I also had R1 from Paramount is that it seems to have one more deleted scene, cant remember which one.
     
  16. Mark_Wilson

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    Two full rate DTS tracks and two other 5.1 tracks? Hows the PQ?
     
  17. Julian Lalor

    Julian Lalor Supporting Actor

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    The UK DVD has one DTS and one DD 5.1 track; the picture quality is better than the R1 IMO. The French DVD has half bitrate tracks. I have the French Sleepy Hollow which has 2 DTS and 2 DD tracks, and it too looks better than the R1 version.
     
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