Elvis Presley 30 #1 Hits on DVD-Audio - a rant...

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  1. Michael_T

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    I posted this on another board, but feel like posting it here also to see how others feel:
    Ok - so I breakdown and purchase the Elvis Presley DVD-Audio disc - 30 #1 Hits (not really being a big Elvis fan to begin with) - but hey it was on sale for $15.98 at it is a slow week for new releases. [​IMG]
    Anyway, I haven't listened to this yet - but don't really expect too much (yes I know that the DVD-Audio disc doesn't have a dedicated stereo/mono track).
    BUT, one thing irks me and seems a little disconcerting, as I state from the insert in the package:
    " The first 18 songs ("A Little Less Conversation" through "Stuck On You") were mixed from the original multi-track tapes and the last 13 ("A Big Hunk O' Love" through "Heartbreak Hotel") were mixed from the original mono master tapes. Tracks have been mixed and mastered in 5.1 Surround Sound."
    What's wrong with that picture????? [​IMG] [​IMG]
    First off, BMG indicates they reversed the playing order of the DVD-A in comparison to the CD - "for optimum listening enjoyment". The newest songs come first since they are "true" 5.1 surround sound, but the oldest hits come last since they come from mono masters mixed to 5.1 surround sound. I hate to think what songs like "Love Me Tender", "All Shook Up", "Heartbreak Hotel", etc are going to sound like in 5.1 surround sound when mixed from MONO tapes?!? [​IMG]
    Do I dare think shades of "Silverline" Records here - where over 90+% of their DVD-A's are mixed to 5.1 Surround Sound from 2 track/mono masters. Needless to say they sound downright bad.
    Can this Elvis DVD-A be another point of contention for those who "hate" DVD-A to drive another nail into the coffin?
    I guess I will find out when I take a listen.
    If you want to find out what I found after a listen click on this link:
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...hreadid=111967
    Any other comments are welcome.
     
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  3. Shawn C

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    I picked this up today as well and gave it a quick listen. Personally, I think the whole thing sounds pretty good. The center channel is used very little and is mostly used as ambiance. Elvis' voice comes from the main L/R speakers. 99% of the music comes from the mains as well. The surrounds are mostly used for ambiance. Strike that, I am hearing alot more the second time around.

    I've heard some backup chorus from the rears as well as from the center channel.

    Considering when these songs were recorded, they really did do an excellent job of restoring the music. It sounds great.

    I do, however, have problems with the DVD features.

    A.) There is no menu. NO MENU. No selections...nothing
    B.) In order to get to the 'bonus' tracks, I have to press the TOP MENU button on my remote. That will get me to track 1 of the special features. (It is listed as 30-something on the label).
    C.) In order to get BACK to the main tracks, I have to fast forward past the last of the bonus tracks. No combination of buttons can get me back to the main tracks other than fast-forwarding.
    D.) Once you play the last of the bonus tracks, the screen goes to black.


    After reading Mike's posting on another BB, I see how you are supposed to get around to the various groups. I guess I just got a little confused without an actual menu..


    Oh, and I wasn't too thrilled about the standard CD case. I really like the 'super' cases that come with most of the DVD-A titles out there. But, I guess that's strictly a personal thing.
     
  4. Steve Meskell

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    I just finished listening to it....now I don't have a DVDA player yet(waiting for that DVDA/SACD player for under 300 bucks [​IMG] ), and my HT setup may not be the greatest...I think Elvis never sounded better. Burning Love is worth the 20 bucks on its own. RCA/BMG has to get their shit together and produce a better package. I had some concerns that the mono tracks would sound too weird(like A Hard Days Night), but IMHO they sound good(unlike AHDN). Interested to see how the rest of you guys/girls with DVDA players think.
     
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    Here's an interview with the producer which goes into how they came up with surround from mono. Might want to give it a look over if interested in how they got 5.1 from mono masters. Seems more involved than what I heard about the silverlines.
    EIN Interview with David Bendeth - Producer of ‘Elv1s 30#1s’ DVD
    http://www.elvis.com.au/articles/int...deth_piers.htm
     
  8. Shawn C

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    Cool. I didn't know they were only making 25,000 copies of this, especially considering that they have already sold 8,000,000 copies of the CD.
     
  9. John Kotches

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    Oddly enough, someone on the Quad board is reporting that a stereo mix is present.
    Here's the post pointer
    I had every intention of driving out and picking this up yesterday when it was released, but the head gasket in my car's engine had different ideas. [​IMG] So I'll pick it up this evening after I pick my car up.
    So Michael, since you own this disc and I don't -- have you tried switching over to group 2?
    It's fun to see pronouncements about the content of a disc, before it's even been loaded in the player to verify the contents.
    Regards,
     
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  12. John Kotches

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    The point is that people are reading the top of the thread, and not making it down below.

    See the edit icon? I suggest you use it.

    Regards,
     
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    Amazon is showing 24hr ship; same price as DVD Empire.

    If anyone orders for them I'm up for "share the love" on this title.
     
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    DVD-A? Bah!!
    The stereo vinyl release sounds great. [​IMG]
     
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    We went to Graceland recently, and they had some half-speed vinyl reissues of some of his records, and they proudly stated that they were digitally remastered??????????[​IMG]
    Don't know what the hell they were thinking, but vinyl and digital are mutually exclusive. The whole point of vinyl is not having digital sound.
     
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    I will buy the Elvis DVD-A despite the fact that I just sold my Panasonic DVD-A player to my co-worker. Have to go to Best Buy tonight to see whether they have this title.
     
  19. Shawn C

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    My wife and I listened to about 1/2 again last night. It's getting better and better. I can't believe how good the vocals sound!

    There is something that I never put together in the past, as I am not a big Elvis fan, until now. Why is it that he sounds so different from song to song. His voice naturally got deeper as he got older, but he sounds like he's 13 years old on Jailhouse Rock. It really doesn't even sound like him, IMHO. Did he as some time decide to sing everything in a deeper tone, or did it just happen naturally for him?
     
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