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Hardware Review Eero 2nd Generation Review: Now Twice As Powerful! On Top Of The Connectivity Revolution

Discussion in 'Computers' started by Ronald Epstein, Aug 20, 2017.

  1. Sam Posten

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    The opposite. It takes traffic that was forwarded over wifi and sends it from puck to puck over Ethernet. Faster and leaves more bandwidth for the Wifi.
     
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    It’s not a gen 3 product. It’s a gen 2 repackaged with maybe some tweaks. A gen 2.5 I’ve read.
    This is primarily a price drop to drive sales.
     
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    If Eero offers true VLAN for its guest network, and doubly if it adds VLAN to separate IOT devices, I’d have to consider it over Orbi.
     
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    The new $99 eero is, from the specs I've read, essentially an eero Beacon but with Ethernet ports. The re-named eero Pro is a tri-band router while the Beacon and $99 eero are dual-band.
     
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    ^ any difference in performance from previous beacon? Any updated reviews yet?

    I’m deciding whether to get Amazon Eero 3-pack for $250 or Netgear Orbi 3-pack for $300? Eero is better price, don’t have to catch Costco sale, is smaller so more flexibility in placement. Orbi tests at better performance, isn’t owned by a company motivated to try and Hoover my internet data or turn WiFi into a shopping system.
     
  8. Ronald Epstein

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    Dave,

    That's a tough question to answer. I am bias towards eero, obviously, but you will do well with either system.

    From what I have read the Orbi main unit has to be centrally located in your home rather than the eero main unit which can be placed anywhere.
     
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    Wirecutter is updating their recommendations for mesh:

    https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-wi-fi-mesh-networking-kits/
    frankly, my mind is kinda blown. I’ll be doing some more research. My WiFi is good. I don’t *need* to upgrade (Current Apple gear in bridged mode works better than I expected with faster internet). But I want to sooner than later. :)
     
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    Great review of the new Eero ver 2 three pack.
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/12/amazons-inexpensive-eero-mesh-wi-fi-kit-is-shockingly-good/

    And a follow up from the author to my question:
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/12/amazons-inexpensive-eero-mesh-wi-fi-kit-is-shockingly-good/?comments=1&post=38364817
     
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    I have the version 2 as reviewed in this thread.

    I was concerned as to whether the newly released versions were any better, so I wrote the customer support team at EERO...

     
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    The big difference is that this triple pack has sale pricing of $190. That's about the price of a single high-end wifi router. It's about the same price as a singe eero pro. It's more than a $100 cheaper than the Eero Pro and two Beacons that you have (and maybe half the price from when you bought in 2017).

    And as I've learned, it's likely plenty good for me, since I've got ethernet and don't care about wifi backhaul.

    I came close to buying the eero Pro 3-pack on sale for $350 -- a great price. Glad I didn't, as it would have been overkill and overspending.

    I've gone 180º on this. If I were to buy a new mesh system, I'd get this new Eero three-pack (non pro) v2 kit. It's cheap (as these things go). Performance is good. I didn't want to give Amazon direct tap into my internet...but my technological life is owned by corporate oligopolies and compromises must be made. And reviews on Orbi (my prior choice) have declined against their reportedly inconsistent software quality.

    But with that, my desire to go "mesh" has decreased. My AEBS + bridged AE work well. I get 400+ Mbps wifi throughout the house on a good day. The more I read, the more I conclude that a mesh upgrade wouldn't change my wifi performance much. So, at $190 it's doable without much handwringing over cost. But it's Xmas, and there's lots of money to be spent right now, so I'll just push this to 2020 and reassess. :)
     
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    If you are getting 400+ Mbps you don't need a mesh system.

    I am getting less than that. I presume mostly because I have about 15 devices attached to WiFi
     
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    Where I think I have some weakness is in the handoff between router and bridge as I move around the house. A mesh system might make that better...or maybe not as I’ve read that iOS devices have problems hanging on to weak signals instead of switching to a stronger access point.
     
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    Dave, you are right about devices not switching to stronger nodes. iPhones are notorious for holding on to the weaker signal when you might be standing right on top of a node. iPhones will hang on to a -80 signal but not transfer data leaving you with a useless phone until you force it to switch by cycling wifi off and back on.

    A system like Luxul will track devices on the network and will switch the device to the stronger access point. Luxul makes a mesh network but unfortunately it is a price based system and does not include the software to force the switch.

    Brian
     
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    I've looked into Ubiquti's gear, and while I'm tempted by a system with that much control and customization, I'm not interested in "home wifi networking" as a hobby per se. That keeps pushing me back to looking at consumer-gear like Eero or Velop or Orbi.

    But I've concluded that my current bridged system works well enough, so I can push off buying new toys for a bit longer. I'll still probably buy a new mesh system sooner than later, because, toys :) but it's no longer the "must have" I thought it was with the FIOS upgrade.
     
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    After a couple years of struggling with our WIFI setup, I've installed Eero and so far so good. I was able to get in on the sale for the Eero Pro and two beacons for $300 that was on Amazon (but also priced the same on Best Buy).

    Last year I put in a Netgear AC2300 to replace an aging Apple Airport and Airport Express setup, which seemed to be fine for awhile as it was one device replacing two, but the back corner of the house (master bedroom) continued to be a dead and/or flaky zone. But in the last couple of months it seemed like the zone was getting bigger so that the bedroom next to the master bedroom was starting to have problems too.

    I'd been looking at mesh systems for awhile and figured that would be the next step. The master bedroom still has a weaker signal compared to other parts of the house (80% vs. 90%+) but weaker but stable (usable) is an improvement. I may play some more with beacon placement, but so far I have no complaints and setup was super easy. Just hoping things last, since the conventional router seemed to be OK for awhile too.
     
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    I noticed one of my devices connected to and insisting on staying connected to the beacon at the opposite end of the house, instead of the Eero Pro gateway sitting just inches away from it. So I found this KB article last night, which basically says it's still an issue because of the device.

    https://community.eero.com/t/k9mprt/devices-not-connecting-to-closest-eero

    In my case, it's not a high performance device, and it seems to be doing fine on the beacon, so I'm not too worried about it. I just thought it was odd and curious if there was a way to move it to another Eero.

     
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    I've read about that, and it's a known issue with iOS according to various comments.
     

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