Ed - 3/5/03

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  1. Patrick Sun

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    Good, but painful, episode on most fronts. Lot's of internal and external conflict between the 3 subplots.

    When Dr. Jerome fakes being dead and gets Mike, that was classic.

    Ed and Frankie can't go on working together.

    Carol's face when she finds out that Ed slept with Frankie was priceless. But WTH did she expect, that Ed would just sit on the sidelines and pine for her forever? Puh-lease, get over yourself, Carol.

    "High five, Frankie!"

    The subplot of the dangers of gastric-bypass surgery had all the subtleties of a rhino in a china shop.
     
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    next week Ed spends a weekend with Carol babysitting? how does that work? Conflict already with Frankie/Carol, and not even one episode after Ed puts on his "A game" [​IMG]
     
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    High Five, Paul!
     
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    Mike during the dinner at the Goat was priceless, with his high-fiving. Like Patrick, I loved the frozen look on Carol's face when Ed finally got sick of their crap and told them point blank. She obviously is not safely in the "friend zone" where she pretends to be.

    Mike, Toby and Dr Jerome had me on the floor. Thanks to Dr Jerome, I have now have some new phrases to add to my vocabulary:

    "Sweet screaming Moses!"

    "You upright St Bernard!"

    [​IMG]

    Found it very interesting it took a woman to put Dr Jerome on the straight and narrow...not that he'll stay there for long. Now if only Nancy could have given that talk in the Ginger outfit from last week... [​IMG]

    I like time with the high school kids, but felt the plot was a bit too predictable. I thought the glimpse into Mark's support group was really interesting - making fat jokes about each other, presumably as a way to take the sting (and power) away from when someone else makes those kind of jabs.

    Warren's comment about allowing "his kind of people" into the meetings was great. Apparently he and Stella are still going at it though.

    Ed and Frankie - wow, a very nicely written plot about the pitfalls of both workplace romance and when you move from friendship to romantic love. It's nice to see the "bad" side of Ed from time to time - keeps him realistic and human, rather than always as the "ideal man" he can be seen as.

    It's my hope that the show keeps Frankie in the picture for a while or they get her out soon. I like her and Ed together - very much - but if they hope to keep any tension at all in the Ed-Carol thing, keeping a great romantic interest for Ed in the show doesn't help. I think a lot of us have switched alliegance from Carol to Frankie.
     
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    "High five, Frankie!" [​IMG]

    OMG, that had me rolling into the commercial break.

    I agree with Patrick on the subtleness of the surgery storyline. Seemed to be too "After School Special" for me.

    "You say Mike only hears what he wants to
    And you say Walter talks so all the time-so"
     
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    frankie is too cute for words. does anyone else foreshadow some sort of frankie vs carol action?

    no...i don't mean it that way. [​IMG]

    the whole surgery thing was weak. mark seems like a real intelligent guy...i don't think his character would "take on" the responsibility role so easily and heavily.

    strange role for that dave attelle (sp?) guy...
     
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    "6 and a half times"

    "What's a half"

    "uhhh... "

    [​IMG]
     
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    "I called them bitch1 and bitch2"

    so many classic quotes from this show [​IMG]
     
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    Another great episode. Loved the part where Nancy explains just how she'd kill Mike and Dr. Jerome...forgot her words exactly, but that was damn funny.
     
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    I have a feeling that the risks of gastric bypass storyline was something that the producers thought would be responsible to do...but they should have addressed it in a different manner...it was very forced.

    I thought Diane had left the show for good to work on movies!
     
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    I thought this episode was the best of this season. The "love triangle" storyline will be very interesting.
     
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    "Clams Casino!"
     
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    Another terrific episode. Although the gastric bypass storyline was forced, it was clear the producers or somebody with the show wanted to get the counter-message across. I did not think it was a problem because it was intermixed with such spectacular storylines: everything with Mike and Dr. Jerome, Frankie and Ed of course, and even a pretty entertaining legal case. Carol has been a semi-useless character lately until the black dress scene in last week's episode. That shows the impact she can and will have in future storylines especially on Ed's choices. I prefer Ed with Frankie even long-term, and I hope they keep Ed and Carol as just "friends". However, there is room for a lot of sexual tension scenes between Ed and Carol even as he continues with Frankie.

    Keep those Ed's coming. Best show on tv right now and about the only thing I really look forward to watching anymore.
     
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    The show really seems to place its regular characters on two levels. Everyone is praising this week's show (rightfully so), but I noticed that Phil, Eli, and Shirley were completely absent. The "wacky bowling alley crew" seems to only provide comic relief, and they disappear when any real conflict shows up. The show seems to evenly distribute its more dramatic main plotlines between three basic "serious" modes: Ed has a moral dilemma; Warren & friends have a moral dilemma; Mike, Nancy, Molly, or Carol has a moral dilemma. They all get to engage in wackiness as well, but their characters are more fully formed. Even the episode where Eli's friend was on trial didn't focus on him.

    I guess I'm just suggesting that the show would benefit by adding some realism to the Phil, Eli, and Shirley characters. Give them some dramatic character development. It worked for Warren - he got pretty annoying when all he provided was classroom comic relief. When they really developed him as a "younger version of Ed", he became more tolerable. Phil really needs some character development - or a boot in the ass. [​IMG]

    Brad
     
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    My TIVO did not record this weeks episode. Im a little upset. [​IMG]
     
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    The bowling alley supporting cast is annoying, with the exception of Eli. I usually fast-forward through the Phil subplots. Why they got rid of the big dude (forgot his name), I'll never understand, 'cause he was the only one that was ever funny.

    Anybody else think that he last two episodes of Ed were the first good ones of the season? Finally, a return to the quirkiness that started the show.

    I was laughing out loud at Toby singing the Lisa Loeb song..."You say...I only hear when I want to..." [​IMG]
     
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    "The big dude", or Kenny, as he was called on ED, was played by Mike Starr. I'm pretty sure he left the show on his own to pursue movie rolls.
     
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    "Kenny" was on an episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent last Sunday.
     
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