Hi everyone, I got so tired of trying to find a non bias comparison between echostar and directv that I decided to take action lol I got a friend to bring over his directv reciever and I got it all hooked up this afternoon....I am going to keep it for about a month and do a side by side comparison of every channel. I would like this effort to be of use to everyone so I am requesting parameters for the test. so far this is the way it is set up I have both units connected to a hitachi 57swx20b thru the s-video inputs, I am then selecting pip and displaying both units side by side...this gives me an approx equivalent to two 27" tvs I need suggestions on how to set color for this comparison because it isd obvious already that directv has much more saturation....so with the echostar set correctly you end up with a red push effect on the directv feed. I plan to hook up a high resolution camera and do screenshots of each channel so people will be able to compare my comments to the screen. Please chime in if this will help anyone or anything special I should do because this is alot of effort if interest is'nt there. so far I have only tested two channels...cnn and cnn headline news.....side by side echostar was a full magnitude sharper with clean defined lines but also looked washed out color wise compared to directv which was clearly more vivid...so much so that I would say I could detect a good bit of noise in the colors. so in my opinion the echostar picture looked better....my wife came in to the room and remarked that the directv picture looked better to her.....this was 100% based on color though because to a videophile it was clearly not the best image....kind of opens your eyes to peoples perception though. this snap shot of one channel though is not a fair comparison and I will spend the next month comparing....the winner will determine who gets to stay in my house. this will not be a hi def comparison because only the echostar is hd capable.