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Jeff Ulmer

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If they didn't have the right to resell trailers then how can anyone blame Disney for protecting their assets? That they won in court pretty much says they were in the right. What the use of the infringement is is irrelevant, it is still infringement. VidoePipeline could have paid Disney for the rights, but then that would have lost them profits, go figure.

As for your $10, good luck.
 

Jeff Ulmer

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If they didn't have the right to resell trailers then how can anyone blame Disney for protecting their assets? That they won in court pretty much says they were in the right. What the use of the infringement is is irrelevant, it is still infringement. VidoePipeline could have paid Disney for the rights, but then that would have lost them profits, go figure.

As for your $10, good luck.
 

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Sorry for my "sky is blue" thread crap.

The reason for my frustration is that any kind of idiot can parrot the party line, and often, when something is being discussed, someone will inevitably jump up and state the party line - as if there was some brilliant insight on offer!

Studios own their artwork and trademarks. Yup. The challenge then is to figure out how to let their rights coexist with the wishes of others. For that kind of discussion, parrots need not apply.

That's all I meant.
 

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Sorry for my "sky is blue" thread crap.

The reason for my frustration is that any kind of idiot can parrot the party line, and often, when something is being discussed, someone will inevitably jump up and state the party line - as if there was some brilliant insight on offer!

Studios own their artwork and trademarks. Yup. The challenge then is to figure out how to let their rights coexist with the wishes of others. For that kind of discussion, parrots need not apply.

That's all I meant.
 

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A quick googling revealed that while it has been ruled that the use of trailers is covered under "Fair Use",
http://www.sabucat.com/fairuse.html[/url] ,

Video Pipeline had made its own trailers out of footage from Disney movies. While Disney claimed VP didn't have the right to even show theirs, the fact VP had made new ones was a large part of the judgement against them.

http://www.envoynews.com/piperrudnick/e_article000192863.cfm[/url]
 

Jay Pennington

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A quick googling revealed that while it has been ruled that the use of trailers is covered under "Fair Use",
http://www.sabucat.com/fairuse.html[/url] ,

Video Pipeline had made its own trailers out of footage from Disney movies. While Disney claimed VP didn't have the right to even show theirs, the fact VP had made new ones was a large part of the judgement against them.

http://www.envoynews.com/piperrudnick/e_article000192863.cfm[/url]
 

Jeff Ulmer

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This has nothing to do with Eisner. It has everything to do with the illegal distribution of company assets, and the legal department's job to protect them.
 

Jeff Ulmer

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This has nothing to do with Eisner. It has everything to do with the illegal distribution of company assets, and the legal department's job to protect them.
 

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Augh! Will you stop saying that? We know, we know! It's still unfair as these things were NOT SOLD and were being given away FREE by the owners. It's not the same as distributing money making assets but we understand they have an obligation to protect them anyway!
 

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Augh! Will you stop saying that? We know, we know! It's still unfair as these things were NOT SOLD and were being given away FREE by the owners. It's not the same as distributing money making assets but we understand they have an obligation to protect them anyway!
 

Jonathan Carter

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Eisner is Disney these days. If they didn't want him running the company, rest assured he wouldn't be. Therefore it is Disney's fault. They need to get rid of that money grubbing sleezeball as soon as possible before they lose every ounce of the goodwill and love they once had from the public. A quality movie every now and then wouldn't hurt either.
 

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