DVD Sales - "Lord of the Rings" - 8/11/02

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  1. Malcolm R

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    1. Lord of the Rings (Widescreen)
    2. Lord of the Rings (Pan & Scan)
    3. The Simpsons - Second Season
    4. Collateral Damage
    5. Resident Evil
    6. The Time Machine
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    12. The Royal Tenenbaums
    13. Tarzan & Jane
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    15. A Beautiful Mind (Widescreen)[/list=1]
      Week Ending 8/11/02
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    Aahhhh nuts.
    Has anyone else re-organized shelving units upon seeing 'fullscreen' logos? [​IMG]
     
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    Take a look at this numbers Warner and all Full Screen Only promoters....
     
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    We'll see what billboard's rankings are when it get's updated. Billboards ranks includes all retailers, except for online.
     
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    It's interesting to see The Simpsons Season 2 up so high. That's selling quite fast for a 4-disc set. Good news for fans of TV on DVD (like me).
     
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    So did the LOTR DVD set any records? It's garnered a great deal of interest from people I work with who don't generally buy DVD's.
     
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    Yeah, I'd be a lot more interested to see actual sales figures. I bet there was a big drop off between #2 and #3 and between #3 and #4.
     
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    I wonder if that #2 position is counting all the free Blockbuster and Kia Test Drive full frame discs...?
     
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    Really, I don't care so much about rankings as to what the total # of units sold was. When is this info going to be released? How come the Brits released this data four days ago and we still haven't heard any U.S. figures?
     
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    "I wonder if that #2 position is counting all the free Blockbuster and Kia Test Drive full frame discs...? "
    My Free Blockbuster Widescreen copy would have counted in the #1 position. The Blockbuster near me only carried the the widescreen version for rent. It had both for sale. Don't be blinded by the anti BB crap on this forum [​IMG]
     
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    no hard numbers released yet .....but.....
    COMMENTARY
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    WHO'S COUNTING?
    Just a week after the release of Lord of the Rings, the second-guessing by competitors has already begun in earnest.
    If industry estimates of total first-week sales of 5.2 million - 6.5 million copies (not counting 1 million - 2 million copies sold to rental stores) are accurate, that means, according to various 52-week projections by New Line competitors, that overall sales of Lord of the Rings will top out at 14 million - 15 million units. (New Line would not discuss sales figures.)
    The same kind of 52-week estimates for Harry Potter top out at somewhere between 16 million - 18 million.
    Those were the two biggest movies of last year, each generating more than $310 million at theaters, and each the first of new mega-franchises for which the second installments are being released in theaters in just a couple of months.
    Although many people like to compare the relative video success of the two as if there is some sort of competition within the Warner family, the more interesting comparison is to the video releases of the next two biggest theatrical movies of 2001, Shrek and the upcoming release of Monsters, Inc., each of which grossed in excess of $255 million in theaters.
    If Shrek can generate video sales of 24 million units after grossing $50 million less in theaters than either of the other two movies, why are sales of Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings falling short by such a wide margin of 6 million - 10 million units each?
    Some competitors will tell you that Warner is not as good at marketing big event pictures on home video--the studio has no titles among the biggest video sellers. Others point to the shockingly low first-week VHS sales figures on Lord of the Rings in particular--1 million - 1.5 million units (excluding nearly 1 million to rental stores)--and to what they believe is needlessly low DVD pricing that offers little distinction from VHS pricing, and suggest that Warner is trying to kill the VHS market as quickly as possible. The studio is targeting the 30 million DVD homes almost exclusively, while ignoring the other 50 million VHS households, competitors say.
    But maybe it's simpler than that.
    Maybe Shrek did so much better because it's an animated movie. Sure, you could argue that Harry Potter appeals to kids and families as Shrek does. But look at the top-selling videos of all-time. They're all animated movies, most of which outsold even the biggest live action movie in the history of cinema, Titanic.
    And it's worth noting that Shrek was released in the fourth quarter last year, not May or August like Potter and Rings, respectively.
    That means Monsters, Inc. has a great shot at exceeding sales of both Potter and Rings and that Ice Age could also give Rings a run for its money.
    The next best true test of whether live action can compete with animation will come with Columbia TriStar's release of Spider-Man.
    By the way, despite doing nearly three times the business at theaters, Titanic hasn't sold as many copies as Shrek either.
    http://www.videobusiness.com/comment...=3692&catID=11
     
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    At least 3 of my co-workers who never buy dvds bought Lord of the Rings (in widescreen per my recommendation), so it is penetrating a lot of households that don't normally buy dvds.

    I read in the paper that LOTR dvd is outselling the vhs by a margin of 6 to 1.

    Without igniting a religious discussion, I feel I must mention that I know at least 3 people who will not buy Harry Potter or LOTR for religious reasons, but did buy Shrek.
     
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