DVD Rot - how common is it?

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  1. Greg_M

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    I was playing a DVD I bought 3 years ago and three quarters of the way through it began to lock up. I've had this problem with two other DVD's purchased in the late 1990's. Is this common on older DVD's? Is it common on current DVD's? Will stores replace the title? Which titles have been know to have rotted?
     
  2. Mark Walker

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    Greg-
    I am under the impression there have yet to
    be any true accounts of DVD rot. What seems
    to be reported the most is the early RSDL discs,
    and what seems to be happing in the sealant between
    the layers is breaking down. This seems isolated to
    WAMO (Warner Advanced Media) DVDs.
    Contact has been menioned several times
    as a problem DVD.
    If someone can point me to a DVD with "rot,"
    that is a deterioration in the media itself,
    just like the cases of TRUE LD rot, and
    not the breakdown of the adhevsive in the layers,
    I'd like to hear about it.
    (I'm not being sarcastic, I just have yet
    to hear anything conclusive about genuine DVD rot.)
    Mark
     
  3. Michael St. Clair

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    Whether the glue breaks down and the disc starts separating, or the glue eats the metallic layers, the end result is a disc that starts out fine, and over time becomes unusable and unrepairable.

    And that, my friends, is ROT.

    It's time to stop parsing semantics and call a spade a spade.
     
  4. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

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    This topic was recently the subject of a spirited discussion in the thread below (it's on page 2):
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...0&pagenumber=2
     
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  6. Jerry Gracia

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    Whatever this "phenomenon" is, it isn't widespread.

    Certaintly not a cause for such a level of alarm as LaserDisc rot.

    I have nearly 250 discs that have played fine.

    In fact, my oldest disc, DONNIE BRASCO (the original release) I bought back in late 1998 still plays fine.

    I'm not convinced this is a real problem.

    It just keeps getting recycled. Then people who don't know any better read about DVD rot on the internet and spread the word.
     
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    What DVD titles are known to have rotted besides the ones listed below:

    Ghostbusters

    Contact

    My Fair Lady (At the intermission break)

    South Pacific (shortly after the intermission break)

    Cabaret (at the Gorilla number)

    Yellow Submarine???
     
  8. Jerry Gracia

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    Uh...GHOSTBUSTERS had a well known problem with player compatibility, not rot.

    Starting a "rot list" is useless.
     
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    Why is it useless? Some of the titles I've heard developed rot I own. When I played them I noticed they had in fact rotted.
     
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    What have you noticed, Gregg? Curious.
     
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    The Anchor Bay/Crest National discs with the defective lacquer on first pressings (not rot but often confused with it):

    Frankenstein Created Woman

    Heathers

    Opera

    The Witches

    Anchor Bay has a replacement program in place for these discs.
     
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    Nope, it is rot. My 'Heathers' worked when I got it, and it doesn't play now, and I am not the only one.
    Not all defects which lead to rot are necessarily the same, nor do they necessarily manifest themselves the same physically, but the discs stop playing so it is ROT.
    I have had bad pressings (Urusei Yatsura) and I don't confuse them with rot.
     
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    I have merged these two threads on "DVD Rot". Please do not start multiple threads on the same subject. Thank you.
    Michael Reuben
    HTF Administration
     
  15. Jerry Gracia

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    Someone attempted to do a "rot list" not too long ago.

    The thread author asked for individuals to post discs that have rotted on them.

    Now...one night I tried to watch A BRIDGE TOO FAR on my RCA DVD player in my room...I kept getting "NO DISC" on the player read out. The disc was pressed by WAMO to boot.

    But the same disc loaded up and played without glitches on my SONY player in my main set-up.

    Now, suppose I didn't have the SONY player. I would have immediatly posted that A BRIDGE TOO FAR manufactured by WAMO doesn't play on my player, it must be rot!

    But it wasn't. It was a disc/player compatibility issue.

    How are you gonna weed out the legitimate entries from the faulty ones?

    There are FAR more issues with discs being out of spec than discs deteriorating over time.

    Something to think about.

    Why cause panic when in reality there is no need for it?
     
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  17. Greg_M

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    I had a problem with the "My Fair Lady" DVD. At first I though it was my player. I didn't remember the disk locking up when I bought it. I skipped over the chapter that locked up. A few months later the disc wouldn't play beyond the first 90 mintues of the film. I returned it. Later I found out others had a problem with it. So it wasn't just my player. Apparently the "My Fair Lady" DVD had been a problem with many people.

    If another title presents the same problem I would like to know in case I own it. I would rather find out now than one night, half way through the viewing of a film, or at least be aware the title has had problems with other owners.

    When I use the word rot, I am refering to the picture freezing up and pixelating - the pictures turns to colored squares.
     
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    Is there a threat which lists titles that are known to have rotted?
     

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