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Dune (David Lynch)

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Todd McF, Jan 9, 2002.

  1. Todd McF

    Todd McF Second Unit

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    I heard that there is no SE planned, so I'm thinking of picking up this one. Usual question to current owners:

    How is the transfer (vid & sound)?
     
  2. Mark Palermo

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    For an older Universal transfer it looks pretty good... miles ahead of Carlito's Way, Scarface, Clockers and Born on the Fourth of July. But it's a little muddy in places. Satisfying enough, though. I'd probably give it 3 out of 5. Soundtrack is OK, if a little too bassy in places.

    Mark
     
  3. Jeff Kleist

    Jeff Kleist Executive Producer

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    I will not be suprised if we see a Dune Ultimate Edition at some point, hopefully containing the superior TV cut in anamorphic widescreen (sans the repeated battle shots that used the extreme left and right)

    In the meantime, I'll setting for my UK copy of the TV cut, even if it is *spit* pan&scan. Like Aliens (I grew up watching the CBS extendedversion) I can't watch the theatrical cut of this film, there's too much missing that's essential to the plot.
     
  4. Mark Palermo

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    The extended cut of the film is credited to Alan Smithee. Lynch hates it. An ultimate edition would be unlikely, as Lynch has stated that he's through with the film.
     
  5. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

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    PhilipG Cinematographer

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    Michael is absolutely right, however, being a completist, I would like to see at as a "third disc" addition a la Brazil CC.
     
  7. Sam Davatchi

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    The DVD is non-anamorphic.
     
  8. Jeff Kleist

    Jeff Kleist Executive Producer

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    That's why I'm saying an anamorphic transfer of the TV version can be done. The more footage I see of Dune, the better the movie gets. I'd love to see the original 5 hour cut some time
     
  9. Patrick Mirza

    Patrick Mirza Supporting Actor

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    Don't forget that "Judas Boothe" also wrote the TV version!
     
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    DaViD Boulet Lead Actor

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    regarding the "superior" TV version.
    As an artistic whole, this version falls utterly flat. Editing is poor, and the wonderful audio score that accompanies the theatrical film version is replaced by a trite toto "dune theme" that just keeps looping over and over cuz the guys doing this version for TV didn't have the time or care to rework the score into the new cut.
    However,
    many of the scenes (such as the scene where Paul battles a Freemen and gets his water of life) are a real enhacement to the film as a whole and would be wonderful to see them incorporated properly into a *real* director's cut.
    All we can do is pray. It sure would be nice to have it 16x9 anamorphic, in any case.
    -dave
     
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    The region 4 DVD is non animorphic but has a full bit rate DTS track of the true 6 channel master, the region 1 is a 4.1 track taken from the same master as the LD's pcm track...
     
  12. Mark Walker

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    The television cut could not be done widescreen,

    because if it was, you'd really notice that they

    show the same damn footage of a ship landing

    like 5-8 times. Plus they made it look like

    the Bene Geserit were being escorted around by

    the Harkonen's.

    Like others said, there are a few scenes that are

    good, but over all the television version suck ass.

    Mark
     
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    I have both versions. I'm a huge fan of the 1984 movie and Frank Herbert's novels, I just had to have all the extra scenes available, it's a crying shame the long version isn't in widescreen.

    Hopefully a future DVD special edition will have a David Lynch recut of the film.
     
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    I don't think David Lynch will ever want to revisit that film again, even for DVD, in the light of what Universal did to the film for television, and the fact that DUNE has been remade into a Sci-Fi Channel miniseries. One of my SWC Fan Network websites touches on the "mutilation" (if you will) on Lynch's film.

    But should, by some small miracle, Universal does revisit the film again, then the very least they could do (and at the same time honor Lynch) is to put all the added Smithee footage onto a supplementary disc as a separate feature, and not restored into the film proper.

    The film has a very troubled history as it is, so aside from its cult classic status, in time DUNE probably will be "out of sight, out of mind".
     

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