dts and DD5.1

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  1. Nick G

    Nick G Stunt Coordinator

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    I purchased a concert DVD recently (Roy Orbison Black & White Night, GREAT DVD) which has both dts and DD5.1. I have listened to it both ways and cannot tell the difference. This made me wonder if one these methods supposedly has an advantage over the other. Does dts have a dedicated LFE channel?
    Regards, Nick
     
  2. Scott Simonian

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    Lets see if I can shield you from the incoming flames.
    Dolby Digital and DTS are two different codecs. If they do not sound different to you then that may be a good thing. Dont worry about the differences and listen to what YOU LIKE. Dont listen to the incoming flames for preferences.
    Listen to what you think sounds better. If they sound the same to you, then pick what youd like.
    DTS and DD both have a dedicated LFE channel.
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  3. Joshua Moran

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    I think it all depends on the material to. Some things sound better in DTS. I am curious as to how Twin Peaks will sound in DTS I don't think there is going to be a huge difference if any at all.
     
  4. Holadem

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    DD SUCKS!!!!!!
    DTS ROOOOOOLZZZ!!!!
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  5. Scott Simonian

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    Not to disreguard what i just said .....
    ......Holadem, Im with ya! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
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  6. Michael Reuben

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  7. Scott Simonian

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    Hahahahahaha. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Sorry, I couldnt resist. [​IMG]
    But really, dont listen to what others like. Choose what you want to listen to. Not what others like.
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  8. Marty Neudel

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    Nick,
    DD & DTS were both designed to reproduce the sound of a 5.1 soundtrack in less space than a PCM track, with no apparent difference in sound. Both systems were demonstrated to industry panelists, and both achieved their goals. There is much ranting over the superiority of one system over the other. However, searches on this forum will show that most of us have found that both systems will reproduce the same sound, given the same mix, handled with the same care.
    That being said, there are differences in many tracks. Is one codec audibly superior to the other? NO! Does one system, quite often, sound better than the other? YES! In cases where one sounds better than the other, DTS is ususally the winner. Nonetheless, the original reason for developing these systems was to save space. DD is consistently better than DTS in this regard.
    As a rule, though, I listen for the quality of sound, not for the medium-space saved.
    Marty
    [Edited last by Marty Neudel on November 01, 2001 at 09:19 AM]
     
  9. Sean Conklin

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    All I can say is Thank God for both!!
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  10. Kevin C Brown

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    DTS is better. Always. You know it too. It uses a higher data rate. Therefore it carries more information, therefore less of the original signal is "thrown away" during the compression process.
    Just kidding. [​IMG]
    Each can sound just as good as the other if care is taken during the mastering process.
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    If you can't tell the difference, maybe you should upgrade your equipment. [​IMG]
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  12. joe goswami

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    Let me see now.....
    a) when DTS was leashed on the public DVD style, you needed big bucks for the DVD's, recievers, and required a DVD machine that would pass a DTS bitstream - strike one
    b) various articles in magazines and more importantly, controlled listening enviornments showed no audible difference between DD & DTS - strike two
    c) DTS was never in the running when the original DVD standards commitee was set up several years ago - strike three
    Nowaday's its commonplace to see DD/DTS receivers, DVD's & players. I've always been a defender of the DD flame and just about anything else Dolby Labs has released to the public (Dolby S, HX Pro, Dolby C, etc...) After all , isn't Pro Logic II a Dolby invention.
    The answer to your question Nick is that what you heard was correct. Do not let anyone fool you that DTS is "better" than DD. Remember they are both compressed digital audio formats to begin with.
     
  13. Nick G

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    Thanks guys for all the replys. I now understand the dts/DD thing.
    Regards, Nick
     
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    One thing that really gets me when reading peoples comments is when someone is so floored with a spectacular Dolby Digital soundtrack. They go on and on about how great it was and such. Then after all is said they say, gee I wish I had it in DTS.
     
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    I prefer Quad or the original Dolby Surround..
    The bass is truly amazing and the degree of channel seperation and wider sound stage is truly impressive.
    This is the purest of all analogue sound experiance and is rich and colorful.
    These systems are a MUST for the best Mall-Theater experiance
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    Just kidding!
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  16. Scott Simonian

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    LOL Nathan. [​IMG]
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  17. NathanP

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    I thought that was pretty funny too!
     
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  20. Marty Neudel

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    >All I can say is Thank God for both!!
    Sean,
    With what's going on now, I thank God for each day someone in America doesn't die in a terrorist attack. For things like ht-codecs I thank DTS Labs and Dolby Labs, respectively.
    Marty
     

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