Dredd (2012)...WOW!

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Robert George, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. Robert George

    Robert George Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 1997
    Messages:
    1,091
    Likes Received:
    67
    I'm sure there will be an official forum review and a "Few Words About" from Bob Harris, so I'll only steal a little of their thunder. And "thunder" is more of a pun that you may know.

    My nomination for most under-appreciated movie of the year is...DREDD.

    Perhaps it was my expectation of another major cheese fest after Stallone's semi-comical treatment of the not very funny comic book of Judge Dredd, my ignorance of the original comic book story, or just a poor marketing by Lionsgate, but the theatrical release of Dredd did not make my list a few months ago. Too bad for me. Or, considering the new Blu-ray treatment of this terrific little film and a better than average audio and projection rig at my house, maybe the wait is actually worth it.

    First off, there is little to compare this new film to Stallone's version. It has been written by others more familiar with the original "Judge Dredd" material that this new film is considerably more true to the comic series. I'll take their word for it. Certainly this new version is grittier, grimier, and considerably more blood-soaked than the cartoonish treatment of the previous film. The production design of Dredd is much more believable in its depiction of a post-apocalyptic cityscape, or mega cityscape in this case. Characterizations are also more realistic here. Drug dealers in the future still act like drug dealers, although like the over-the-top violence that permeates the action, they are simply more predatory in an environment where crime is a way of life. For Karl Urban's portrayal of Judge Dredd, the lack of background or character development does not seem to affect our perception of the character. Urban does a terrific job of making an unbelievable character believable. Extra props to Urban for taking a role where his full face is never seen. IMO, this is the real Judge Dredd.

    While this was a relatively low budget film, it looks like everything got put on the screen. The production and effects are solid, especially the "Slo-mo" drug effect. Really cool to look at, and the Blu-ray transfer captures everything beautifully. But the real standout here is the totally sick 7.1 soundtrack. I can't think of a single film I have heard that made better use of the multichannel format. The bass is deep yet so well integrated, this is bound to become one of THE demo soundtracks.

    I really liked this movie, and the Blu-ray is everything it should be in the sound and picture department.

    Way recommended.
     
  2. Robert Crawford

    Robert Crawford Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 1998
    Messages:
    29,705
    Likes Received:
    5,023
    Location:
    Michigan
    Real Name:
    Robert
    I patiently await for my BD arrival after a close friend told me months ago about how great this film was and how much better than the Stallone version.







    Crawdaddy
     
  3. Jason_V

    Jason_V Producer

    Joined:
    May 7, 2001
    Messages:
    5,482
    Likes Received:
    687
    Location:
    Bothell, WA
    Real Name:
    Jason
    It's nothing, at all, like the Stallone version. The new Dredd is absolutely violent, bloody and profane...and it looked exquisite in the theater. Everything from the sets to costumes and action impressed me quite a bit. This is a dark movie (story and lighting) without a lot of happy moments. But dang, was I ever glad to see it in the theater.
     
  4. Robert George

    Robert George Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 1997
    Messages:
    1,091
    Likes Received:
    67
    Despite the hard, indeed, brutal, nature of this film, it was about the most fun hour and a half I've had at the movies in a really long time.

    That probably says more about me than the movie.

    Whatever.
     
  5. Robert George

    Robert George Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 1997
    Messages:
    1,091
    Likes Received:
    67

    That being said, I'd have to give the transfer an extra point. At no time did I consider the image oppressively dark or did I note any obvious crushed blacks except in a few scenes where the lighting was done for obvious effect. Excellent shadow delineation.
     
  6. Tino

    Tino Lead Actor
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 1999
    Messages:
    8,501
    Likes Received:
    1,917
    Location:
    Metro NYC
    Real Name:
    Valentino
    What about the 3D?
     
  7. Robert George

    Robert George Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 1997
    Messages:
    1,091
    Likes Received:
    67

    Someone else will have to answer that. I don't do 3D.
     
  8. Bob Cashill

    Bob Cashill Producer

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2001
    Messages:
    3,023
    Likes Received:
    644
    The great Anthony Dod Mantle (Oscar, SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE) is the DP. Terrific lighting throughout, oscillating from hard grays to surprisiingly soft colorations and an occasional nod to comic book imagery. The Blu looks great but I bet the production's use of 3D was really something special.
     
  9. Paul D G

    Paul D G Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2001
    Messages:
    1,768
    Likes Received:
    75
    See also The Raid: Redemption. Also came out in 2012 and, plot wise, almost the same movie. It felt like deja vu watching Dredd. And quite good as well.

    A group of policemen going after a drug dealer are trapped in a dilapidated tenement building.
     
  10. Robert George

    Robert George Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 1997
    Messages:
    1,091
    Likes Received:
    67

    "Almost the same" for good reason, apparently. I have read the script for Dredd was leaked and the resulting rip-off Indonesian production got finished first.
     
  11. HDvision

    HDvision Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,071
    Likes Received:
    191
    Location:
    Paris, France
    Real Name:
    David
    Yes, it's funny thought both films also owns a bit to the euro french zombie flick La Horde from 2009
     
  12. Robert George

    Robert George Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 1997
    Messages:
    1,091
    Likes Received:
    67
    Perhaps. But, from what I have read in recent years, the average cost of a major Hollywood studio production is now over $100 million. Some say well over. If that is accurate, then yes, $50 million is relatively low budget. Maybe "modest budget".
     
  13. Colin Jacobson

    Colin Jacobson Producer

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2000
    Messages:
    5,962
    Likes Received:
    519
    I'm with you: for a big action flick circa 2012, $50m is relatively cheap. That's $20 million less than the 1995 flick!
     
  14. HDvision

    HDvision Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,071
    Likes Received:
    191
    Location:
    Paris, France
    Real Name:
    David
    You forgot to adjust for inflation. The original film probably would cost around 180 millions now, shot for shot, to remake. The new one is great.
     
  15. EnricoE

    EnricoE Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2003
    Messages:
    518
    Likes Received:
    5
    the lack of interest for dredd had many reasons...
    the 1995 turd - well not really a turd, but for me rob schneider ruined the film on many levels.
    the similar premise like the raid - afaik dredd was planned before the raid. both films are good
    very little interest in the character
    did the film deserve this? NO! it's a very good film for it's genre, including it's flaws, and karl urban was perfect as dredd. i do hope the movie does well on home-video and opens the chance for a sequel -> bigger, more bad-ass :D
     
  16. Colin Jacobson

    Colin Jacobson Producer

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2000
    Messages:
    5,962
    Likes Received:
    519
    I implied the difference due to inflation in my post. Yes, $50m from 1995 would be well over $100m today, but the point still remains that "Dredd" was made 17 years later and cost $20m less, which indicates that it was a relatively cheap flick for its genre.
    For those of us who can remember when $50m was a HUGE budget, it's weird to think of it as "modest", but in the current marketplace, it is - at least for a big, effects-laden action movie...
     
  17. Robert Crawford

    Robert Crawford Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 1998
    Messages:
    29,705
    Likes Received:
    5,023
    Location:
    Michigan
    Real Name:
    Robert
    This BD with 3-D is now 19.99 preorder price at Amazon. Crawdaddy
     
  18. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    21,083
    Likes Received:
    1,941
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    Drokk it, pre-ordered! Dang you Crawdaddy and Obi! Amazon for $19.99 includes the 3D, Digital copy and the much reviled UV code for those of you who are so inclined: http://www.amazon.com/Dredd-Blu-ray-Digital-Copy-UltraViolet/dp/B005LAII80/ref=sr_tr_sr_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357313001&sr=8-1&keywords=dredd I think Amazon will give you an Amazon stream of it too, but don't quote me on that.
     
  19. Edwin-S

    Edwin-S Producer
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2000
    Messages:
    6,091
    Likes Received:
    311
    I missed this film in the theater. I saw the trailer for it on EXPENDABLES 2. I'm sure I'll rent it, but it just looks like your typical action vehicle: nothing too memorable. I am familiar with the original comic book and I have to say that the DREDD comics do have humour in them, along with the ol' ultraviolence. If this film doesn't have any humour to it then it will have failed to capture this character just as much as Stallone's take on the character did.
     
  20. Carlo Medina

    Carlo Medina Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 1997
    Messages:
    10,432
    Likes Received:
    636
    Wow, a few people whose opinions I value are vouching for this film. Might be time for a blind buy. :) Seems like not a lot of people saw this movie, but those who did give it very good word of mouth.
     

Share This Page