Does anyone know anything about this mystery SVS?

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  1. Rich G

    Rich G Stunt Coordinator

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    "The line for PC (Powered Cylinders) has halted. Instead, something is coming for the folks for whom the VTF-2 and Rava were the top of your game price-wise.

    And we don't mean maybe. "

    This was a quote from Ron from another thread. Does anyone know about this? If so, I would love to read any threads on the topic.

    Thanks,
     
  2. ScottAndrew

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    I'm also very curious. I was going to order a VTF-2 as soon as my old speakers sold, but I think that could be a big mistake.
     
  3. Kevin C Brown

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    Cool, I've been waiting for a "big box" sub from them. But not too big! [​IMG]
    Variable phase control knob, variable phase control knob, variable phase control knob...
    A subsonic filter would be nice too (< 10 Hz or something).
     
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    i dont think it's gonna be a box. i'm almost positive they're gonna stick to their traditional cylinder shape.
    here's my guess: all those drivers going back to SVS for the upgrade are being placed into either 1) the same enclosures as the CS/PC's or 2) a cheaper, modified cylinder, but either way it'll make for a budget SVS that'll knock the Hsu and RAVA around. [​IMG]
    just my guess...
     
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  6. Rich G

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    Interesting takes so far. I don't know if it will be a box. I also thought the same of all the drivers being returned for an upgrade. I can't see them actually doing that as they may run out of replacements or gamble the risk of used drivers back out under warranty.

    I also wonder if it would be sealed or ported.

    But you never know. I think Ron also said in that thread

    "Irregular my ass!

    We're "un-conventional conventionalists" I tell ya! "

    Gotta love 'em!
     
  7. Kevin C Brown

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    Vin- Well, there's usually paper and wood, that's just roughage. The wiring and the metal parts to the magnet could be a problem though... [​IMG]
     
  8. Brian Bunge

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    This is a direct qoute from TV himself:

    "8)have a SVS *black box* in final design stages(I just put the proto type thru it's

    paces yesterday)...subsonic filtering,18v gain,continuous phase...we should have

    it in inventory in 4 weeks or so.(not bad...going from idea-->proto

    type-->inventory in 6 weeks?)"

    If that doesn't tell you it's a box I don't know what does.

    Also, Ron's "un-conventional conventionalists" statement reinforces this theory.

    Brian
     
  9. Rich G

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    Brian, do you have the link to this quote?

    thanks,
     
  10. Tom Vodhanel

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    The black box is a small electronic component that can be added downstream of your decoder's subwoofer preout.

    18v gain knob to help anyone who isn't getting enough voltage to push the amp to full throttle. Continuous phase knob,and a 3 position subsonic filter switch. All designed by Phil Marchand.

    PS---we have no idea what we're going to do with the returned *old style* drivers yet. As noted, I might end up with a 100 driver IB in my basement...but they won't be used in anything we sell for many,many months if ever.

    TV
     
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    The box Tom is referring to is the little unit that will increase sub out voltage for receivers with impedence mismatches with the Samson, not a sub enclosure.

    Oops, sorry Tom. You replied while I was writing mine.
     
  12. Brian Bunge

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    Well, hell! There goes my theory! [​IMG]
    Brian
     
  13. Richard Burzynski

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    since we're guessing, i also think we'll soon be seeing our first svs "box" sub.

    rich b.
     
  14. Jim_C

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    I really doubt that it's a box. TV and Ron have been extolling the virtues of cylinders all this time. It seems to be a big part of their design philosophy. Why would they change? Couldn't it be a small cylinder, something around the size of the VTF-2?
     
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    While Tom and Ron have touted cylinders, I think it's mostly for their internal volume, isn't it, so they can achieve a flat response without a bunch of EQing? Seems a small cylinder (a la VTF-2) would defeat that purpose. I'm also very curious as to what their newest offerings will be. Are you guys planning on a sub that isn't entirely flat and needs EQing?! Say it ain't so, Tom. Say it ain't so [​IMG]. Anyway, can't wait to see. Glad I've got my "regular" 31CS to keep me happy in the meantime.
    Steve
     
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    Yes, internal volume is a part of it. A big part of it as understand it. But it's also a structural issue. Big boxes flex and require serious cross bracing to counteract that. Unless I'm greatly mistaken flexing affects the quality of the bass that's output. Small boxes require EQ'ing right? I'm pretty sure that SVS thinks that EQ'ing is evil. [​IMG] I'm certainly not a sub-human but I seem to remember reading about these things.
    It could be a box. It would be a big surprise to me if it was though.
    TV and Ron must be getting a kick out of this. As if SVS didn't have enough of a buzz going, now they have a 'Ginger' of their own. [​IMG]
     
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    it's a microcylinder the size of a microphone suitable for blasting microbes right out of their home.
     
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    Now I definately want to see pictures of a 100 driver IB. How you planning the manifold :p)

    PS, is the Fs low enough and the Qts high enough on the old 12" drivers to work well for an IB.
     
  19. ScottAndrew

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    So when do we get the news? I just sold my old lame sub to make room for a VTF-2, so I'm on hold with no sub at least until I find out what this new SVS is. It's very sad, but I get no sympathy from my wife.
     
  20. Rob Peloski

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    From http://www.svsubwoofers.com/svscsplus.htm
    "A powered version (called, surprisingly enough, the "PC-Plus") will be produced sometime in Spring 2002."
    Spring isn't too far off. Could the "mystery sub" simply be the PC Plus?
     

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